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God created the earth he does not need to abide by its rules e.g. something from nothing. just like time, God created time he does not need to abide by times rules.

i was about to right the same thing

so what was said to make you reject God?

yeah i think that is a pretty shallow thing to be scared of.

I dont fear for that reason, i do not not want to die eventually either, when it is God's time, i know i will be in heaven with him.

I think that is ok to go against what the church says though esspecially if the teachings are not inline with the bible

ah no

exactly

umm yes i can. how come out of all the times i have said there is grey area you only start arguing about it now?

yeah like grey area, i have said that on numerous occasions within this thread.

I think that abortion is generally wrong but there is always grey area.

I completely agree there about the best decision at the time thing.

i think that sickness is a result from sin within the world, not a direct punishment for sin but rather a consequence of sin been in the world. So in other words i don't believe that someone been sick is because of a sin that they have committed

do you guys think that is fair f or the church to discriminate against homosexuals though, or any christian group for that mattter. Bear in mind that homosexuality is actually against christian moral beliefs, i think that it is fair that they will not have homosexuals as priests. I would be...

did you have a restore CD or something?

just put vista back on it then or a linux system

very shifty I would not take part, for all you know they are trying to import drugs and make it look like you did it.

i am on 8.04 now, fixed the problem.

Ok i am trying ubuntu because i decided last time i dont think that i gave it a fair enough chance, so i am now, so far i do not think it is better then windows, but not worse either.. thanks for the suggestions everyone,