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Lets say I'm an asshole. I'm a selfish bastard who cares only for myself. I dont even really like my friend beyond a superficial level. I am also a devout muslim (insert jokes here). The ONLY thing that would make me spare my friends life and allow my kidnapper to murder me would be because I...

You kill your son. Luckily mine never asks me to.

No.. If you didn't realise that neither decision results in both dead you didnt understand the scenario... :S However you are correct, with no belief in God I put forward it does simply come down to a Cost/Benefit analysis.. Now is an individuals cost/benefit anaylsis any method in...

I completely respect that opinion however I seemingly have far less faith in man-kind than you do.

Heres one scenario. A man has kidnapped me and a friend. The man gives a decision that I alone can decide. He says that he will spare the life of my friend if I permit him to kill me. If I do not permit him to kill me, he will kill both. If I do not fear god and the consequence of my...

No one should try to impose their beliefs. Islam encourages to give positive Dawah (preachings of faith) where possible but it is actually makrooh (not recommended) to impose beliefs on someone appears not to have sought this information. Tell them this and hopefully they will stop pestering you :)

But we are only talking about complete disrespect for Islam here.. Surely one can only make that determination based on its negative and positive values??? I can understand your belief that you do not have to embrace Islam due to it's positive qualities as you can achieve those qualities through...

The question you ask does not pose anything beyond the notion already outlined by Ozko. I also made quite clear that it is possible for one to achieve the same moral standards (let's say the 'good qualities' so as not to allow the debate to become convoluted) you can achieve through following...

But why not? That's like saying I don't appreciate Bob for believing he should be honest about cheating on his wife because Dave believes one should be honest too. Further to that it appears respect for Islam does depreciate on perceived negative values which are also not mutually...

To have absolutely no respect for a religion, which when you study - shows that it preaches compassion, humility, modesty, selflessness, honesty.. The list goes on and on... These are good qualities. I do not assert that these qualities cannot be achieved without religion, I do suggest that many...

Thirdly that it appears many active posters in this forum are very much anti-islam.

sigh.. I guess the fact a comment like that gets so much support indicates two things. Firstly that you cannot rely on a majority for justification of truth. Secondly it reiterates that this whole debacle really is entirely about lack of respect and understanding. From both ends of the...

How is this beyond respecting religions... surely you understand that depicting the prophet if offensive to people regardless of how you are depicting him as an image. It's a shame you dont respect the religion, I'm glad you found Marxism/Socialism/Communism instead as I'm sure you greatly...

Point taken. I accept that the portion who do "support murder" (which is such a grossly simplistic accusation btw) do so under a false understanding in my opinion.

Omg... You're so dumb... If Muslims don't support murder in the name is Islam then who are you are you opposed against here? As per my calculations some muslims may support murder. Just like some sick fuck people of any religion/race/gender with no real belief system support it. Whats your point?

To be honest there probably are "millions" of unstable minded muslims in the world anyway. Agree with his comment on second thought. Don't agree with Lolsmiths. Given there are close to 2 billion muslims in the world.. 2 million (which is the minimum requirment to constitute millions) = 0.1%...

See response to Lolsmith's post. Wow you guys make really bad atheists... Are you sure you are even one? I say this as your reasons for discounting the existence of God appear to be pretty lackadaisical.. sometimes infantile. I suspect you simply regurgitate what you hear and read by atheists...

Oh the return of the bigot.. probably a good idea to keep reading and not posting.. you already exposed your severe level of naivete.. Remember?

Wow... another wild accusation based on your peripheral and misinformed understanding of Islam. There are certain exceptions where under a certain set of circumstances it becomes necessary to kill, i.e. To prevent evil (this is interpretive) 2. in Jihad 3. Defence Essentially murder is not...

1. To defend PakiPrince. Lolsmith's direct quote said Britain - Not BNP - He was responding to that direct quote.. You spastic. 2. I am not sayign the BNP murder people. I believe the BNP are perfectly fine to operate as they wish. I assert they have questionable links to more extreme...