2006 poets, where art thou? (1 Viewer)

[black_man]

heh at all this stuff about "the medium chooses you" and poetry being "intensely personal"

I've always believed poetry is 99% showmanship and 1% dartboard... rather like any other medium.

might i inquire as to whether you are or have previously undertaken EE2? I assure you that undertaking any medium has it's own complications, and poetry is perhaps no different. The possibilities of the form are amazing, as evidenced by the differences in works from 2003,2004 and 2005. While some maintain poetry as a 'personal form', there is a versatility that allows students to explore other areas (refer to Katie's MW in 2004 as a wonderful example)

 

[super katie]

I've always believed poetry is 99% showmanship and 1% dartboard... rather like any other medium.

haha yeah alot of it is showing off, but thats what ee2 is there for, to show off your skills. But about it being intensely personal, i guess it depends what you're writing about. Some of the incidents that I wrote about were intensely personal for me because they were about what happened to friends of mine and directly affected us all. I guess it just depends on your subject matter and how much you value your work.

 

[Estel]

might i inquire as to whether you are or have previously undertaken EE2? I assure you that undertaking any medium has it's own complications, and poetry is perhaps no different. The possibilities of the form are amazing, as evidenced by the differences in works from 2003,2004 and 2005. While some maintain poetry as a 'personal form', there is a versatility that allows students to explore other areas (refer to Katie's MW in 2004 as a wonderful example)

In response to your question: yes I have done EE2 though I don't think that fact is particularly relevant. (Short story, though I did spend a lot of time researching the poetry medium because I did experiment with blending the two).

It's true that every medium has its complications, but at our level I hardly think we are specialising in any true sense. There's enough crossover between poetry and short stories to be able to switch between them (and perhaps that is possible even at a high level- Poe immediately comes to mind). Ideas of poetry as a 'personal form' are pure BS- all forms are about persuading the reader you've written something for them. Excessive introspection might look romantic but it's really only self indulgence.

super katie: I agree, but I still think you could say the same about any other form.


This is all of course just my humble opinion, and merely for the sake of discussion rather than to be a pain in the backside.

 

[super katie]

In response to your question: yes I have done EE2 though I don't think that fact is particularly relevant. (Short story, though I did spend a lot of time researching the poetry medium because I did experiment with blending the two).

It's true that every medium has its complications, but at our level I hardly think we are specialising in any true sense. There's enough crossover between poetry and short stories to be able to switch between them (and perhaps that is possible even at a high level- Poe immediately comes to mind). Ideas of poetry as a 'personal form' are pure BS- all forms are about persuading the reader you've written something for them. Excessive introspection might look romantic but it's really only self indulgence.

super katie: I agree, but I still think you could say the same about any other form.


This is all of course just my humble opinion, and merely for the sake of discussion rather than to be a pain in the backside.

haha its nice to see some life in this forum I wasnt trying to start a debate about the relative personal nature of different forms, just speculating on why there wasnt a great deal of conversation or sharing of works in this forum as opposed to others.

 

[black_man]

I think katie is correct in saying that poetry is very accessible in terms of plagiarism, though perhaps it is a similar sort of issue in other forums. Bear in mind the candidature for poetry is rather small, and perhaps it's simply a case of those that are involved might work very independently. I'm not sure, but Estel is definately correct in the sense that poetry, at least in this course, is definately concerned with the ability to reflect a real kind of sophistication and competence in the poetic form, though it might perhaps might fluctuate between the extremes of sophistication and intospection. I can imagine that a work that might intend to present itself as extremely sophisticated might appear somewhat sterile, just as there is a danger of self-indulgence in an over-emphasis on introspection, though maybe there is a middle ground that can sort of be obtained where readers can engage with what is being read, rather than being too distant or too kind of smothered by it

 

[katykins]

isnt life grand.
two months to hand in my major work..
ee2 <3

 

[katykins]

nope..
i stayed well away from all the political/world stuff.
mine's more to do with the human condition, the human person him/herself.

 

[katykins]

When one does explore society, it is innately critical that we must, too, explore the individuals inside it. My work explores both.

very true.
omg.. look at your subjects!!! ahhh
how do you cope!??

 

[katykins]

woah..
i had to read that twice to understand fully what you just said.
it's people like you that make people like me wonder what i'm doing in extension 2.