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What if student gets 90 adv math 40/50 extension and 60 all for phys chem and standrs english?
Well thats still the same thing. Just coz you get like 95 in maths and shit the rest of your subjects doesnt level you up with someone who does well altogether
 

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if u really wanna work hard and succeed in engineering its possible , despite what a four number indicator says.

i get wym tho, that if u do have a lower atar then u might be less motivated to succeed in general, so u might struggle in engineering.
Well its not only about 'less motivation'. With a low atar your chances of getting into an engineering field that pays well and that is beneficial for your future is low. But of course, other factors will come into play but generally speaking
 

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Well thats still the same thing. Just coz you get like 95 in maths and shit the rest of your subjects doesnt level you up with someone who does well altogether
Let's say that our guy also got a 90 in software. would you say taht he is a bad fit for computer science?

Also what do you know? ur still in year 10 taking about university
 

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Let's say that our guy also got a 90 in software. would you say taht he is a bad fit for computer science?

Also what do you know? ur still in year 10 taking about university
Yeah 'what do I know' I agree wholeheartedly
 

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Well its not only about 'less motivation'. With a low atar your chances of getting into an engineering field that pays well and that is beneficial for your future is low. But of course, other factors will come into play but generally speaking
yes, but by lower atar, i was meaning to refer to one that was the bare minimum to enter an engineering degree, compared to a 95+ atar (which im using as for many students in selective schools this seems to be treated as the "minimum", not saying thats a bad thing but yea) for exmaple which is technically unnecessary to gain entry to an engineering degree.
 

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I'm talking specifically about engo. I know people with 99+ atars and some school duxes struggling with engineering + there's a high dropout rate, so it's not as easy as Interdice makes it look like.
exactly and people keep on flexing that medicine is way harder than engineering. No. It doesn't beat engineering by miles. Electrical engineering and aerospace both are close to the difficulty of medicine.
 

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exactly and people keep on flexing that medicine is way harder than engineering. No. It doesn't beat engineering by miles. Electrical engineering and aerospace both are close to the difficulty of medicine.
medicine is harder in the sense that u need to memorise a VERY large amount of information and also have extremly good social skills and be able to handle any medical situation, engineering is harder in the sense that u are required to be multidisiplinary, as u need to have very strong skills in maths, physics, programming, cad, drawing etc
 

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exactly and people keep on flexing that medicine is way harder than engineering. No. It doesn't beat engineering by miles. Electrical engineering and aerospace both are close to the difficulty of medicine.
Agreed, engineering specifically electrical and aero are super difficult. My brother does electrical and the stuff they do is crazyyyy, + a lot of it is physics and chem which is the harder sciences, at least to me.
 

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why tf r we even comparing
Agreed, engineering specifically electrical and aero are super difficult. My brother does electrical and the stuff they do is crazyyyy, + a lot of it is physics and chem which is the harder sciences, at least to me.
yeah but that's not to say that there's a damn reason why med at most unis requires a high score in external assessment (ucat + gamsat) plus high atar/gpa plus good interview, u don't see that in engo. obv engo is hard but why r we comparing two completely different fields of work?
 

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medicine is harder in the sense that u need to memorise a VERY large amount of information and also have extremly good social skills and be able to handle any medical situation, engineering is harder in the sense that u are required to be multidisiplinary, as u need to have very strong skills in maths, physics, programming, cad, drawing etc
mmhm i agree
 

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