Aborigines..... (1 Viewer)
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Bloody Shitcakes
Let me tell you, you must be part of a local tribe or have connections to a tribe in order to recive abstudy.
I myself am 1/4 aboriginal on my dads side, but i do not identify as an aboriginal because I've never really been associated with the community apart from my family, nor have I activly taken part in any aspect of the culture. My father didn't identify either - his dad was half/half and walked out before dad was two, and his mum who would have had a bit more than 50% abo blood wasn't the best role model in the world, and thus, nothing was passed onto us. And even if it was, my siblings and I haven't had a real relationship with him for over 10 years aside from christmas and birthdays.
Because I do not identify and thus, not a part of a paticular tribe, I'm not eligable for AbStudy. It isn't as easy as everyone seems to think it is, ya know.
I'd agree police target aboriginals, but lets face it, it is generally justified. Look at the Redfern Riots, at people attacked in Everleigh Street. And Ambo was called to Refern just afew weeks back, and all that was wrong was a couple of dickheads pissed off their nut. They ended up beating the shit out of the Ambos, which just isnt on in my book.
We do have a problem with alcohol, half of my family are alcoholics, and I myself drink a little more than I should (but at least I can control myself....) and that leads to so many problems - riots, fights, domestic violence - it's never ending.
Also, aboriginals, because they have only been living in a regulated enviroment for a relativly short time, things like education, time ect have every little value in their minds. However, this is hardly grounds for a University backdoor, because chances are, they will behave in the same manner there too.
You can take my opions as 'racist', i frankly don't care, because I've seen this first hand - with my dad and his family, who originate in Dubbo mainly, and Mums family is from Wallget and Narrabri (highest abo pop in the country) and while I have not inherited much if any blood from her, I'm still related to people from both towns, both of which the population is mostly aboriginal. I've seen and experienced it and until you can do the same, you're not in a position to judge me or others.
I myself am 1/4 aboriginal on my dads side, but i do not identify as an aboriginal because I've never really been associated with the community apart from my family, nor have I activly taken part in any aspect of the culture. My father didn't identify either - his dad was half/half and walked out before dad was two, and his mum who would have had a bit more than 50% abo blood wasn't the best role model in the world, and thus, nothing was passed onto us. And even if it was, my siblings and I haven't had a real relationship with him for over 10 years aside from christmas and birthdays.
Because I do not identify and thus, not a part of a paticular tribe, I'm not eligable for AbStudy. It isn't as easy as everyone seems to think it is, ya know.
I'd agree police target aboriginals, but lets face it, it is generally justified. Look at the Redfern Riots, at people attacked in Everleigh Street. And Ambo was called to Refern just afew weeks back, and all that was wrong was a couple of dickheads pissed off their nut. They ended up beating the shit out of the Ambos, which just isnt on in my book.
We do have a problem with alcohol, half of my family are alcoholics, and I myself drink a little more than I should (but at least I can control myself....) and that leads to so many problems - riots, fights, domestic violence - it's never ending.
Also, aboriginals, because they have only been living in a regulated enviroment for a relativly short time, things like education, time ect have every little value in their minds. However, this is hardly grounds for a University backdoor, because chances are, they will behave in the same manner there too.
You can take my opions as 'racist', i frankly don't care, because I've seen this first hand - with my dad and his family, who originate in Dubbo mainly, and Mums family is from Wallget and Narrabri (highest abo pop in the country) and while I have not inherited much if any blood from her, I'm still related to people from both towns, both of which the population is mostly aboriginal. I've seen and experienced it and until you can do the same, you're not in a position to judge me or others.
something else in the paper, and I'm going to c/p because I remember when my smh reg conked out, pissed me off so much.
Too far, too costly to save Joanie, 3, from going deaf
By Terry Smyth
December 5, 2004
The Sun-Herald
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No help: Joanie's middle-ear infection would be a minor problem in Sydney, but fewer doctors are working in the remote outback where she lives.
Photo: Anthony Johnson
Joanie Shillingworth needs a simple, cheap operation to save her hearing.
But because the three-year-old lives in a remote Aboriginal community in the state's far west, help is 900 kilometres away in Sydney.
Joanie lives at Enngonia, a village of 80 people - 90 per cent of whom are Aboriginal - 100 kilometres north of Bourke, an area with the state's worst health problems.
Like many Aboriginal kids in the outback, she has a middle-ear infection. If untreated it can cause deafness, and Joanie's already a little hard of hearing.
The treament is a myringotomy, which involves making a small cut in the eardrum to drain the middle ear and insert tiny drainage tubes known as grommets.
For a Sydney child, the procedure could be done quickly and relatively inexpensively at a public hospital or day surgery clinic. Even at a private hospital, the cost including surgeon's fees would be no more than $1000.
Dr Ted Beckenham, an ear, nose and throat specialist at the Children's Hospital at Westmead, is among several Sydney ENT surgeons who operate at rural hospitals. However, funding cuts have reduced the number of cases they can do.
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AdvertisementThe far west has the state's highest death rate overall and from heart disease, diabetes, injury, suicide and homicide. It has the highest incidence of lung cancer, teenage and premature births, and of sexually transmitted diseases. And that's for the whole population. The figures for the Aboriginal community are even worse.
The average age of death for Aboriginal men is just 33. The rate of alcohol-related death is eight times the average for Australian males. Recent research shows that substance abuse among Aboriginal people has increased, and that they drink alcohol at more dangerous levels than non-Aboriginal people.
For females, the incidence of tobacco-related death is 64 times the average and teenage pregnancy is 16 times the state average.
Linda Burney, the first Aborigine elected to State Parliament, has launched an emotional attack on the Howard Government's proposed welfare legislation for Aboriginal people.
Ms Burney, MP for Canterbury and former head of the NSW Department of Aboriginal Affairs, said the "mutual obligation" legislation was "racist and paternalistic".
The Federal Government's proposals include payment cards that store information and set electronic limits on what indigenous people can buy using government payments; a requirement that parents subject their children to mandatory six-monthly health checks to qualify for family payments; and that children be clean and attend school to qualify for housing provision and welfare payments.
Ms Burney said: "Maybe we should just go back to the good old days of it being determined for us who we are allowed to marry."
Too far, too costly to save Joanie, 3, from going deaf
By Terry Smyth
December 5, 2004
The Sun-Herald
Page Tools
Email to a friend Printer format
No help: Joanie's middle-ear infection would be a minor problem in Sydney, but fewer doctors are working in the remote outback where she lives.
Photo: Anthony Johnson
Joanie Shillingworth needs a simple, cheap operation to save her hearing.
But because the three-year-old lives in a remote Aboriginal community in the state's far west, help is 900 kilometres away in Sydney.
Joanie lives at Enngonia, a village of 80 people - 90 per cent of whom are Aboriginal - 100 kilometres north of Bourke, an area with the state's worst health problems.
Like many Aboriginal kids in the outback, she has a middle-ear infection. If untreated it can cause deafness, and Joanie's already a little hard of hearing.
The treament is a myringotomy, which involves making a small cut in the eardrum to drain the middle ear and insert tiny drainage tubes known as grommets.
For a Sydney child, the procedure could be done quickly and relatively inexpensively at a public hospital or day surgery clinic. Even at a private hospital, the cost including surgeon's fees would be no more than $1000.
Dr Ted Beckenham, an ear, nose and throat specialist at the Children's Hospital at Westmead, is among several Sydney ENT surgeons who operate at rural hospitals. However, funding cuts have reduced the number of cases they can do.
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AdvertisementThe far west has the state's highest death rate overall and from heart disease, diabetes, injury, suicide and homicide. It has the highest incidence of lung cancer, teenage and premature births, and of sexually transmitted diseases. And that's for the whole population. The figures for the Aboriginal community are even worse.
The average age of death for Aboriginal men is just 33. The rate of alcohol-related death is eight times the average for Australian males. Recent research shows that substance abuse among Aboriginal people has increased, and that they drink alcohol at more dangerous levels than non-Aboriginal people.
For females, the incidence of tobacco-related death is 64 times the average and teenage pregnancy is 16 times the state average.
Linda Burney, the first Aborigine elected to State Parliament, has launched an emotional attack on the Howard Government's proposed welfare legislation for Aboriginal people.
Ms Burney, MP for Canterbury and former head of the NSW Department of Aboriginal Affairs, said the "mutual obligation" legislation was "racist and paternalistic".
The Federal Government's proposals include payment cards that store information and set electronic limits on what indigenous people can buy using government payments; a requirement that parents subject their children to mandatory six-monthly health checks to qualify for family payments; and that children be clean and attend school to qualify for housing provision and welfare payments.
Ms Burney said: "Maybe we should just go back to the good old days of it being determined for us who we are allowed to marry."
