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Lolsmith said:
There are plenty of other media outlets that will condemn it. There are various other ways that the public can be alerted to such an atrocity. The family can take the media source to court for publishing private information against their will. This arguments going around in a circle a bit. I think you're assuming too much of the public.
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On what grounds? You've just said there shouldn't be laws restricting it, without them how can the family sue without grounds? If you think there should be a legal right to privacy which trumps that of free speech then the common law would very quickly prohibit the publishing of that sort of information even if the legislature wouldn't restrict it, it would all amount to the same thing.

Those are different things though. I never said freedom of speech can't be restricted, what I meant is that it should only be restricted as a willing participant in something. A journalist can sign a contract to be a part of a media outlet that follows a specific code of conduct that will limit what they can publish on or speak about. A doctor with patient confidentiality. What I don't like is a society that you have no ability to opt out of, coerces you into not voicing an opinion just because they don't like it, or it upsets people. You know who else censored people he didn't like?
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Dr Sun Yat-sen? To an extent I agree with you about opinions but Bolt put forward falsified evidence to support his "opinion" and implicitly represented it as a fact, casting aspersion on the integrity of innocents in the process. It's not 1984 to say that therein a legal injustice is created which the courts should be empowered to remedy.
 
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Lentern said:
On what grounds? You've just said there shouldn't be laws restricting it, without them how can the family sue without grounds? If you think there should be a legal right to privacy which trumps that of free speech then the common law would very quickly prohibit the publishing of that sort of information even if the legislature wouldn't restrict it, it would all amount to the same thing.
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Mmm... I know when to admit defeat. I'm clearly not as well versed as yourself on this issue, or I've made a horrendous mistake elsewhere. Perhaps I've analysed this in the wrong context.

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Dr Sun Yat-sen? To an extent I agree with you about opinions but Bolt put forward falsified evidence to support his "opinion" and implicitly represented it as a fact, casting aspersion on the integrity of innocents in the process. It's not 1984 to say that therein a legal injustice is created which the courts should be empowered to remedy.
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and I'm super tired atm so I cbf'd with this anymore so I'll just concede defeat atm
 
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Lentern you know what would break the back of the hate media inside of 3 weeks? Removal of all government advertising.
 
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Blastus said:
Advertising regs for positions require them to put them all in print media, it's how the Oz makes ANY money.
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I thought the Oz loses money? That it was a vanity exercise of Murdoch to run a national broadsheet and that News Ltd Australia earns its print money from the Herald Sun, Telegraph and the courier mail? But I do take your point, I initially thought you were referring to the government commercials for the CPRS or the Minerals Resource Super Tax etc.
 
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I thought the Oz loses money? That it was a vanity exercise of Murdoch to run a national broadsheet and that News Ltd Australia earns its print money from the Herald Sun, Telegraph and the courier mail? But I do take your point, I initially thought you were referring to the government commercials for the CPRS or the Minerals Resource Super Tax etc.
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It does but that huge chunk of govt money would do a great deal for making the CBA of the Oz look far less reasonable.
 
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Lentern said:
I thought the Oz loses money? That it was a vanity exercise of Murdoch to run a national broadsheet and that News Ltd Australia earns its print money from the Herald Sun, Telegraph and the courier mail? But I do take your point, I initially thought you were referring to the government commercials for the CPRS or the Minerals Resource Super Tax etc.
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It does but that huge chunk of govt money would do a great deal for making the CBA of the Oz look far less reasonable.
 
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fuck that bunyip post he linked to was p racialist
 
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