$hiftyIceQueen
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^ ok...
so why exactly does everyone here hate them for?
so why exactly does everyone here hate them for?
oh..JaredR said:My original post was to outline the falacies in the reasons for anti-semitism. Not to draw hatred on them! Yes I am.
Because it doesn't matter - whether or not someone is Jewish is irrelevant, so please leave it alone and discuss the issue at hand.$hiftyIceQueen said:oh..
why didnt you say that from the begining?
How fucking arrogant are you. The holocaust really DID happen and if you wanted to see the effects it had on my mother's best friend's mother who was at Auschwitz at 16, her mother and brothers were killed instantly and ended up shovelling bodies into furnaces that could have easily been her relatives, she was barcoded (which she still has). After it was liberated she chose to come to Australia since she was that affected by it she decided to go as far away from Germany as she could. She chose not to go to Israel as she was still very apprehensive of the situation there.$hiftyIceQueen said:i dont not like jews since i dont really know any..but i dont like it when some go on about the holocaust and this is what my family went and all, also when they come out and say what they think about others [eg arabs] yet when you say something about the jews ...everyone gets all offensive...
Anti-Semitism (alternatively spelled antisemitism) is hostility toward or prejudice against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group, which can range in expression from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution. The highly explicit ideology of Adolf Hitler's Nazism was the most extreme example of this phenomenon, leading to a genocide of the European Jewry.the leader said:I just wanna know, how come a person who doesn't like jews is an 'anti-semite'? where does the word 'semite' come from (it doesn't even sound like 'jew')? And, how come there are 'anti-semites' but there isn't such a specific name for people who discriminate against other races or religions?
I agree.tempco said:IMO, anti-Semitism isn't as big a problem as some make it out to be... and quite a few Jews and their supporters are perpetuating it to further their agendas. Two main issues keep popping up. Many Jews tend to think that any criticism of Israel is an attack on the Jewish community... followed by labels - anti-Semite, Jew-hater, etc - being thrown. I've also noticed that any Jew that doesn't agree with Israel's motives and actions is labelled a self-hating Jew instantly.
The fact that the term "self-hating Jew" actually exists (and is used quite extensively) is quite disturbing, really.
$hiftyIceQueen said:^its too long...im not going to bother trying to read it :angry:
i think most people are influenced by there religions, also about what is occuring around the world, all the media ....
i dont not like jews since i dont really know any..but i dont like it when some go on about the holocaust and this is what my family went and all, also when they come out and say what they think about others [eg arabs] yet when you say something about the jews ...everyone gets all offensive...
I've been to holocaust museums, seen videos, heard and met survivors, and am as aware of the extensiveness of suffering that occured during the holocaust, as I can be.ihavenothing said:How fucking arrogant are you. The holocaust really DID happen and if you wanted to see the effects it had on my mother's best friend's mother who was at Auschwitz at 16, her mother and brothers were killed instantly and ended up shovelling bodies into furnaces that could have easily been her relatives, she was barcoded (which she still has). After it was liberated she chose to come to Australia since she was that affected by it she decided to go as far away from Germany as she could. She chose not to go to Israel as she was still very apprehensive of the situation there.
I'm sick of people complaining (who include mostly Anglos) saying that you must be rich if you are Jewish, yada yada yada. I am currently caring for Yetta Bernstein who lives in council flats in Waterloo where pretty much the rest of the people living there are Aboriginal or Eastern European, the conditions there are terrible.
Most of the Jews in Australia came here with only the shirts on their backs and worked hard to get where they were. Now it seems that whenever the Arab community complains about being cast away by society when many of them are well above the poverty line and experienced the same amount of animosity to other groups. My advice to those people is to bear with it and let time heal.
the_leader said:I just wanna know, how come a person who doesn't like jews is an 'anti-semite'? where does the word 'semite' come from (it doesn't even sound like 'jew')? And, how come there are 'anti-semites' but there isn't such a specific name for people who discriminate against other races or religions?
Yeah I've noticed too, it seems that theres not really a commonly used word to describe a subclass of racism for any other race/religion besides for jews.steve_mate said:Here is an interesting fact. Semites are not just Jews. A semite is "A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians" (dictionary.com)
I guess it is one of those words that have evolved.
So literally speaking, Jews are anti-semitic themselves.Steve Mate said:Here is an interesting fact. Semites are not just Jews. A semite is "A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians" (dictionary.com)
I guess it is one of those words that have evolved.
Yes, no doubt other families have been effected by wars throughout the centuries, but this is with specific regards to the modern era. If you can give name to another state-led systematic persecution, isolation, and genocide of another group of people or minority, in the modern era on such a scale I'd love to hear from you.Get over it. [The holocaust]
I would just like to add, however, that a significant proportion of Jewish Australians actually come from South Africa.These people came here from Europe after WW2 with nothing
Seems that's the case, unfortunately.its because bagging out jews has a long and prestigious history. it deserves its own word
Israel marked itself as a refuge from the persecution of the Jews, each Jew that attends a Jewish school is learnt to love Israel, and are offered tirps to Israel, the 'home country'. It marks as a soverign state which protects the rights and beliefs of Jews when no one else will/would. The colonel is asserting the fact that now, the Jewish people have a place where they can be protected, whereas once they were so vulnerable (The Holocaust).A classic example was the Israeli air force colonel who was shown on ABC news who said he didn't feel bad about bombing the shit out of lebanon because (i don't see how this is an excuse) his grandmother suffered during the holocaust because there was noone to defend her and others, and now there is, so Israel is justifed in defending itself. I personally don't see how that makes sense...