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to quote QAF:
"I don't believe in love. I believe in fucking. It's honest, it's efficient. You get in and out with the maximum of pleasure, and minimum of bullshit. Love is something that people tell themselves they're in, so they can get laid. And they end up hurting each other, because it was all based on lies to begin with."
"We don't need marriage. We don't need the sanction of dickless politicians and pedarest priests. We fuck who we want to, when we want to. That is our God-given right."
"To get married? And move to the suburbs? And become a home-lovin', child-raisin', God-fearin'? And for what? So that I can become another dead soul, goin' to the mall, droppin' my kids off at school, and having barbecues in the backyard? That's their death. Not mine."
 
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yy said:
to quote QAF:
"I don't believe in love... We fuck who we want to, when we want to. That is our God-given right."
it makes sense that anyone who behaves like that wouldn't believe in love :p
 

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Over the recent past I've become more cynical in my approach to 'love.' I'm beginning to regard love as less of a pre-requisite to sex and more of a construct designed by humans to make sex ok and less of a guilt-filled, god fearing act.

Although I still believe that the emotion of love exists, just that many people, especially teenagers, throw the word around too freely without actually taking any deep consideration into how strong a word it really is, and what it really means. Many times, lust is mistaken for love. The concept of love is, I feel, exploited, cheapened and commercialised nowadays through such hallmark constructed occasions as valentine's day. Love is a primal emotion that runs far deeper than any greeting card can adequately express.
 

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Lundy said:
Love is a primal emotion that runs far deeper than any greeting card can adequately express.
thats beautifully said lundy!!! <3
 

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yy said:
to quote QAF:
"I don't believe in love. I believe in fucking. It's honest, it's efficient. You get in and out with the maximum of pleasure, and minimum of bullshit. Love is something that people tell themselves they're in, so they can get laid. And they end up hurting each other, because it was all based on lies to begin with."
"We don't need marriage. We don't need the sanction of dickless politicians and pedarest priests. We fuck who we want to, when we want to. That is our God-given right."
"To get married? And move to the suburbs? And become a home-lovin', child-raisin', God-fearin'? And for what? So that I can become another dead soul, goin' to the mall, droppin' my kids off at school, and having barbecues in the backyard? That's their death. Not mine."
Thats a good way to view life but what happens when u turn 50 and lose all ur lust.
 

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sephiroth* said:
Thats a good way to view life but what happens when u turn 50 and lose all ur lust.
i plan to die once i get to 30, or else, just focus on my career and friends.
 

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i'd love to see what ud be like when you're 30...
falling in love with one of your friends :p
 

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i'd love to see what ud be like when you're 30...
falling in love with one of your friends :p
i guess you have to wait for another 13 years.
 

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I believe in love. It's a definitional thing. However you define it is what it really is.

But I also believe in fucking, that's not definitional, that's just cool. [Except with uglies, then it's just sad ...]
 

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You're born lonely you'll die lonely. Love's there for the in-between ..

Personally i've never felt it .. and i have doubts of ever "feeling" it.
Love is for the girl always .. guys don't need love .. but should choose to present it physically for the girl.
 

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Argonaut said:
Love is just a state of mind.
I don't think people have the right frame of mind for analysing the concept of love sometimes. They are too hurt or too emotionally crippled. They also don't have the requisite scientific grounding (even if it's merely a rudimentary view gained from newspapers!).

Firstly, everything you feel or experience is really just the result of finely tuned chemicals anyway. So be pessimistic about that.

But. You do go through several stages to get to "real love" - that being, the sort of love you'd "expect" say a husband a wife with two children to have. Not the shit in the movies which we'll call "romantic love".

So say we start off from the beginning right? We'll start off with just physical attraction. E.g. "that girl is hot" "that boy is hot". That's obviously hormones and also your socially conditioned views of beauty. Socially conditioned meaning the impact of the opinions of popular culture, your parents and your social groups.

Sometimes, however, say if you pick up a boy/girl at this stage the following may happen "god, I don't like this person due to"
If the result is a) physical. Then it's obviously hormonal and social conditioning.
If the result is b) mental/personality. It's probably closer to social and also, happily, your own free thought and free will.

We'll call the previous stage "like". There is of course "like" involving personality and mental features, but if that's to develop into anything, it's probably closer to the next stage because it's not just based on raw physical urges.

Now if that progresses. You get to the sort of "in love" stage. This can also equate to "romantic love". We're all aware of the aspect of it portrayed in the movies. Two hotties get together, the man buys the woman everything she ever wants, she falls in love with him, they have a lot of sex and get married. Or in real life, the guy might buy the girl some things, they have a lot of sex and claim they love each other. Better yet, they fall in love because of personality blah blah. Another aspect of being in love is that you might "love" the person because they "love" you. It's not real love, you love them for making you feel loved, it's to do with covering up your own insecurities as opposed to anything real or lasting.

You might ask why I'm focusing on this personality, opinion, mental aspect. It's important because it's the only way any of this can become real love.

My theory is that you can only get to the real love stage with a proper understanding of the other person, in effect, you actually have to LIKE your partner, accept their flaws and not just want to fuck their brains out (of course, fucking their brains out is a good part of it and is neccesarry!). So you have real love, mature love, which stems from actually loving your partner, not just being in love with them.

What does that mean? Getting to real love is hard. You might be in love, but you find out you don't really like your partner over time for various reasons. You find them less attractive, you don't like the way they think, you don't like the way they act. Of course, this is all within reason, there might be flaws that you can tolerate or even love in real love. So basically, it might take you a very long time to find someone you actually love. But that's alright, you're fucking YOUNG.

My advice, try, experience, enjoy. Don't mope, just enjoy it. Have a lot of sex, be in love with a lot of partners, and eventually something will come a long. If not, just enjoy the hedonism of it all.
 

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ziff sounds like he has had his heart broken.
 

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Bahhaha. Hell no. I'm just explaining a pragmatic view of love. There's a massive difference between "in love" and "real love". It's just that at 19 I doubt there's really the ability to get there. Even if you do get there, social and personal issues will be likely to break it up, not to mention they can prevent it. Issues such as finances, aspiration, careers, university etc. That's all.
 
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bittersweet_em said:
yy, when u meet that special someone your perspectives will change
how about those people that thought they met their special one and then broke up or found someone even more special? many people marry because of that, and ended up in divorce. people change.
 

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Ziff said:
Another aspect of being in love is that you might "love" the person because they "love" you. It's not real love, you love them for making you feel loved, it's to do with covering up your own insecurities as opposed to anything real or lasting.

My theory is that you can only get to the real love stage with a proper understanding of the other person, in effect, you actually have to LIKE your partner, accept their flaws and not just want to fuck their brains out (of course, fucking their brains out is a good part of it and is neccesarry!). So you have real love, mature love, which stems from actually loving your partner, not just being in love with them.
Interesting first point. I agree with the second - I do think there is love.
 

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