becoming a professor (1 Viewer)

[hipsta_jess]

Originally posted by CM_Tutor
When I was doing my Honours year, I did some tutorials for a 3rd year module. The pay was about $66 per hour for the first tutorial, and $44 per hour for repeats of the same tutorial. There was also an mid-$80ish rate, but that was only if you had a PhD.

By contrast, demonstrating lab classes (to first, second and third year) only pays high-$20s for Honours students and post-grads, although there is again a higher (but not that much higher) rate for demonstrators who have PhD's.

is the lower rate for demonstrating coz their tends to be a head hauncho demonstrator and then the other helper peoples? whereas in tutes, its only the tutor?

 

[CM_Tutor]

Originally posted by hipsta_jess
is the lower rate for demonstrating coz their tends to be a head hauncho demonstrator and then the other helper peoples? whereas in tutes, its only the tutor?

The two supposedly require differebt skills - and to be fair, there are demonstrators I know that I wouldn't let near even a first year tutorial under any circumstances - not that its up to me, but you get what I mean (I hope )

In a Lab, the 'head honcho' demonstrator is usually either an academic (it counts towards their total years teaching, but discounted) or a demonstrator with a PhD - the academic isn't paid anything (as its part of teaching duties, thus covered by their salary), the PhD'd demonstrator paid as above. Demonstrators are then in charge of a small group of students (ususally < 20), and do most of the actual work involved. The 'head honcho' wanders around the lab, maybe answering some questions from students, helps out where needed, makes sure the lab runs properly (and safely, etc). They are also there to assist demonstrators if needed, and also to back them should this be needed - I personally prefer a PhD'd 'head honcho', as they generally know a lot more about the prac, because they've demonstrated it many more times. I personally think that demonstrating is underpaid, but it is necessarily so because first year labs in a large course (like chemistry) are incredibly expensive - and demonstrators get benefits other than they pay.

Conducting tutorials - especially senior tutorials - is almost inevitably done by academics. This is probably partly as a cost saving measure, and also because they count more for their teaching load than does labs. When I gave tutorials for third year, I had to be approved to do so by the PVC for the college - it helped that my supervisor was acting Dean of the Faculty at the time, and that I got 100 % for the module in question the year before. The very high rates are really set (IMO) so that academics can have their Post Docs run tutorials - thereby gaining teaching experience - and have them paid appropriately for the work involved. Remember that you don't get paid to prepare the tutorial, only to conduct it.

 

[santaslayer]

but tutes only go far like 1-2 hours...........they should get paid more. (when i get the job, that is)

 

[Minai]

Originally posted by jm1234567890
$80 an hour? i thought it was like $40....

mabye UNSW pays more

my microeconomics tutor last year was a 4th year honours student, and he was on $80 an hour (probably the same system as CM_Tutor mentioned...80 for first tute, and less for every subsequent repeat)
I guess UNSW has more $ to throw around