Not-That-Bright
Andrew Quah
Instead we have schoolyard 'cross-bowings'.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/04/1086203617785.html?from=storylhs
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/04/1086203617785.html?from=storylhs
Jiga
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Hmmmmmmmmm one event like that compared to many in the US. And 2 people merely being injured compared to many being killed.
I have proven that the US has a higher rate of criminal activity, particularly murders per capita which I would certainly attribute largely to their minimal control of firearms and the higher amount per capita of emotionally retarded people = As I said initially, Americans are fucked.
This is evidenced by the stats I provided, and by the many stories of unusual behaviour exhibited by Americans on a constant basis, this gives rise to opinions like;
As for a major drop in crime since 1996, well no their hasnt been, although their has been a drop in armed robbery by 2000
I have proven that the US has a higher rate of criminal activity, particularly murders per capita which I would certainly attribute largely to their minimal control of firearms and the higher amount per capita of emotionally retarded people = As I said initially, Americans are fucked.
This is evidenced by the stats I provided, and by the many stories of unusual behaviour exhibited by Americans on a constant basis, this gives rise to opinions like;
Which are well founded and widespread. And afterall, all I was really trying to show is that the US does have more criminal activity than Australia, as Shuter claimed that it was only related to the US having "10x" the population.....thats why stats come in 'per capita' variants and the US is still higher!
As for a major drop in crime since 1996, well no their hasnt been, although their has been a drop in armed robbery by 2000
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Not-That-Bright
Andrew Quah
I think you have to address not just the availability of guns, but the reasons why people would be drawn towards performing such actions.
It's obvious that you just hate America...
As for their high murder rate, I think you'll find Australia has a comparable rate and we have a total prohibition on guns.
That is more likely attributed to the heroine drought.
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Jiga
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Like I said, I have defended the US, kind of a stupid thing to do if I 'hate' them isnt it
And no, the stats showed that their isnt a similar rate:
Australia : 0.02 per 1000
US : 0.04 per 1000
Thats double, hardly comparable and no doubt related to the points I made in my previous post
Not-That-Bright
Andrew Quah
You have to realise how simplistic your analysis is.
From your website, I also discovered this...
From your website, I also discovered this...
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Shuter
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I use your source of stats because it is the easiest way to rebutt you without you whinging "oh those stats are invalid".Schoolies_2004 said:Distort the truth? Your kidding, Im backing up my argument with statistical evidence! And we want to talk about distortion, 'US is marginally ahead', LOL, Murder with weapons for eg is 10x more prevalent in the US, 'marginally'
And you say we have one of the highest manslaughter per capita, well we are at 0.01 per 1000, and the US doesnt have any stats on this, so I would go to the extent of saying that ours isnt that high and that the US in fact would be higher!
As for rapes, that is about the ONLY stat which is favourable to your view.
The mere fact that you used my source of stats shows that your initial view was just based on your own opinion rather than evidence, and now your just trying to defend yourself.
So it must be clear from the stats also then, that Australia has proportionally higher murders without the use of firearms than the USA per capita. Is it better that people are getting brutally stabbed or other more grusome ways then a shot to the head? Irrelevant anyway, look overall for murder it is 0.04% plays 0.02%, and america is ranked 24th out of 62 which isn't that bad. How can you say gun control is the issue anyway, look at Saudi Arabia, 61/62, the second least murders of all the countries ranked, per capita. There are so many more issues in play so you cannot simply claim america is "fucked" and that they are immeasurably stupid for not implementing gun control which would solve all their murder problems.
You also neglect the huge differences between states over there and instead label them all as "fucked" when really it is only specific areas which crime is far more prevalent. Pennsylvannia not being one of them.
And I would never call Australia having nearly 3X the rape of USA a "favorable statistic". That comment just shows your more about whinging and trying to "prove" your right and I'm wrong and you're king shit, rather than actually trying to understand and comment on the issues at hand logically.
So why do we have far more rape? Are we fucking stupid for allowing all this sex on our TV, whereas america doesn't. We all mocked them when they got uptight about a boob being flashed at the half time show, but who's laughing now?
The correct answer is no we cannot imply this things and use statistics to prove everything. Statistics only provide one factor in a broader scheme of things. Look at the total crime statistics, New Zealand was like number #3 per capita, shit it must be really dangerous to live there.
In summary, remove the pole from your ass, stop bashing shit for the hell of it to jump on the bandwagon to look cool. If you don't know all the issues then don't open your mouth and make stupid comments.
This should be treated just as it is, an unfortunate incident. You cannot make large inferences about america due to this unfortunate event.
Jiga
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Simply, they have a higher muder rate. Now considering that you aernt allowed to own automatic weapons etc in Australia, and this hasnt had an effect in murders etc since this laws implementation, I will concede that gun control really doesnt play any major role. So then, you must ask yourself if its not because they have more guns (Although these do play a role in school yard shootings!) why do they hav double the amount of murders per capita???? Other factors perhaps, maybe phychological reason?
Well yes, they have quite abit of crime in NZ. I have a NZ friend who came to Australia only a few years ago, he has confirmed on many occasions what the stats have suggested
Hahaha wateva. The initial issue here was that you tried knocking me saying words to the effect of 'Of course they have more criminal activity because they have 10x the size in population', you have tried jumping on the 'bandwagon' by acting all righteous. And once I showed you for a fool, that per capital their murder rate is double ours, you've tried to change the issue at hand!
samuelblayden
Newcstle Knights 2006
what a bastard
Jiga
Active Member
Well I can, doesnt mean its right though. And Id like to say that this opinion is based on a culmination of factors, you've got their imperialistic leaders, and the countries general arogance. I recall one story from my father from when he was in Fiji or something, the guys their that helped the ppl take their luggage off the boat and made sure they didnt get wet etc didnt help the Americans....because they had to many expereinces where they were looked down upon by Americans who saw themselves as superior and treated the locals accordingly.
Its a difference of 0.02 per 1000 people, it sounds insignificant, but what it shows is that their murder rate is DOUBLE after accounting for variations in population - essentially its likes saying that if both Aus and US had populations of 240 mil and AUs had a murder rate of 1000p.a, the US would have 2000p.a!! I have also went to many other sites where the figures were similar...if not worse!
I would alos like to refer back to the aftermath of the Hurricance in the US as to out screwed the country is. Apart from the authorities dragging their arse to help the people, the population itself had gone out of control. And not just looting as you MAY expect becaues they were hungry, but their were instances of where people took up positions and were attempting to sniper the police/national guard.....now thats fucked! And on top fo this the MANY gangs in the area had taken virtual control the town....now I would doubt that this would even happen in some of Australias scummiest areas like Cabramatta!!! On top of this all to, is the fact that they have all these guetto's and slums, how the hell can a 'developed nation' have towns where conditions are worse than in some poorer nations! And of course their are areas in Australia that aern to good like Redfern, but they dont even scratch the surfafe of American bum towns
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