Brave New World/BladeRunner (1 Viewer)

[Perhaps]

Hey just wondering if anyone else is doing this for "In the Wild"? Any notes? Any help? Any general ranting?

 

[santaslayer]

i did it last year.....interesting module thou it was hard to digest.....borroed the video and then brought the study guide......did pretty good in the exam

 

[zelda]

the study guide helps alot! the excel study guide is pretty good in analysing them

 

[santaslayer]

yep i used excel as well......make sure u get the directors cut....dont buy the plain crappy one, waste of money

 

[nick86]

In the Excel study guide for Brave New World/Blade Runner it quotes lenina as being an alpha, but in the novel, lenina is a beta. Something definetly wrong there.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Originally posted by nick86
In the Excel study guide for Brave New World/Blade Runner it quotes lenina as being an alpha, but in the novel, lenina is a beta. Something definetly wrong there.

Indeed. You can't always trust study guides.. In a 'Crime Fiction' guide I saw, a quote from The Big Sleep was incorrectly cited to Marlowe (When it was actually said by Vivian Sternwood) and then used to make a point concerning his character.

 

[imsooverskool]

lenina is never actually quoted as being a beta or an alpha in the novel, her class is unspecified... personally i think she is a beta

 

[nick86]

Sorry imsooverskool, in the novel, it quotes lenina as being a beta minus, not exactly sure where, but it does.

 

[clerisy]

I think she is a beta-- at least that's what I assumed (don't know where I got the idea, though). Question being, what colour are betas? Because Lenina seems to wear an awful lot of green, but I thought Gammas were green (and she's definitely not a Gamma).

 

[Lightglobe]

i cant remember where, but im pretty sure it mentions she is a beta

 

[da_butterfree]

lenina is a beta minus, i agree witth u nick86! i think it is said when henry foster is talking to this other guy or either when lenina is talking to fanny m not exactly sure when but she is a beta minus!!

 

[mei_ling03]

lol whether or not she's a beta is irrelevant. rather, you should be thinking of why there is such a system..

 

[nick86]

Actually, it is relevant. You can talk about how there are no alpha females mentioned in the novel. The role of women in the society? In the context of which BNW was written (1920s), during the war, women had to run the country while the men fought. Once the war ended, the women did not want to go back to being housewives. Perhaps Huxley is exploring the issue of the changing social status of women which was an issue back in 20's.

 

[mei_ling03]

but how does that relate to "the wild"?

 

[nick86]

depends on your definition of "in the wild"

 

[mei_ling03]

mmmmmm.
well, if you can pull that off without going off track you're well on your way to a good mark.

 

[lil princess]

Well I always thought Lenina was a beta too...

In the novel it says;

"Alpha children wear grey...Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki...And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to be able to read or write. Besides, they wear black, which is such a beastly colour."

It doesn't seem to mention what colour beta's wear...but i don't think she's an Alpha

 

[clerisy]

I am pretty convinced that Lenina's a Beta-- however, I am still confused about why I think that. Perhaps Huxley just made a mistake (isn't that always the excuse when you can't figure something out?) but still...

Originally posted by lil princess
It doesn't seem to mention what colour beta's wear...

"Mulberry-coloured Beta-Minuses came and went among the crowd". [chapter 4]

Lenina irritates me.

 

[nick86]

Lenina irritates me too, makes the world state all the more dystopic.


There is a quote in the novel "x amount of times makes it a truth" the quote is about hypnopaedia, does anybody know the exact quote and its page reference?

 

[clerisy]

Are you talking about this one? (I'll write the whole paragraph in):

"One hundred repetitions three nights a week for four years, thought Bernard Marx, who was a specialist on hypnopaedia. Sixty-two thousand four hundred repetitions make one truth. Idiots!"

That's about in the middle of chapter three (pg 47 if you have a musty yellowed three thousand year old Granada edition)