Can i state rank if i go to a 300-something ranked school? (1 Viewer)

[jane1820]

What the title says, bc all of the state ranks are either: selective, private school or really good (top 150) comprehensive schools

 

[jane1820]

Like ik a lot of ppl say it doesnt matter the school but like idk ive never seen someone from a very low school state rank before yk

 

[killer queen]

"can" you? most definitely! I don't know exactly how SR works, but since it's not impossible someone from such a school gets full marks, then of course you can. the only issue may be that any tiebreakers may not go in this person's favour (I believe they use internals for tiebreakers?) - correct me if I'm wrong. also, it's just rare that such a talented individual would succeed in such a school merely because at that point it gets to good exam technique; some kid might be a math genius but if they simply don't have the access to resources, then their chances are much slimmer.

just by scrolling through the top achievers list (the number is the rank):




amongst others

 

[Hehehe22]

"can" you? most definitely! I don't know exactly how SR works, but since it's not impossible someone from such a school gets full marks, then of course you can. the only issue may be that any tiebreakers may not go in this person's favour (I believe they use internals for tiebreakers?) - correct me if I'm wrong. also, it's just rare that such a talented individual would succeed in such a school merely because at that point it gets to good exam technique; some kid might be a math genius but if they simply don't have the access to resources, then their chances are much slimmer.

just by scrolling through the top achievers list (the number is the rank):
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Actually, does anyone know how tiebreakers work? I thought they also considered the quality of your responses

 

[headphones]

Actually, does anyone know how tiebreakers work? I thought they also considered the quality of your responses

i've heard for maths ext2 they consider ur ext1 marks

 

[coolcat6778]

i've heard for maths ext2 they consider ur ext1 marks

what if extension 1 is also tied, do they consider retarded shitty english then?

 

[headphones]

what if extension 1 is also tied, do they consider retarded shitty english then?

working / reasoning for questions is also considered

 

[killer queen]

For math I know they look at how deep your response was - for example, in an induction proof, did you always state the values that n can be? Who solved it the most elegantly, with the nearest working?

As for HSIE subjects, I feel that full marks is generally less common, but likely it would be the depth of your response. It only matters for 1st place though, as all the other places will just be ties!

 

[gossipgirllll]

what if extension 1 is also tied, do they consider retarded shitty english then?

stfu

 

[coolcat6778]

For math I know they look at how deep your response was - for example, in an induction proof, did you always state the values that n can be? Who solved it the most elegantly, with the nearest working?

As for HSIE subjects, I feel that full marks is generally less common, but likely it would be the depth of your response. It only matters for 1st place though, as all the other places will just be ties!

do they actually care about how elegant a solution is? Cause the official solution NESA publishes are sometimes awful and ugly. Even for math advanced

 

[v.tex]

That guy from Redeemer Baptist must be a genius

 

[headphones]

do they actually care about how elegant a solution is? Cause the official solution NESA publishes are sometimes awful and ugly. Even for math advanced

elegant solutions r always nice to read

 

[headphones]

it shows that the person has a good understanding of the maths behind the question and it also kind of shows ur appreciation for the question

 

[coolcat6778]

What the title says, bc all of the state ranks are either: selective, private school or really good (top 150) comprehensive schools

In theory, it is easier to state rank as a 1st ranker in any school than it is to state rank as a 5th ranker in a top 5 selective school.

That is because nobody can drag you down as a 1st ranker in any school.

 

[Trial&Error]

What the title says, bc all of the state ranks are either: selective, private school or really good (top 150) comprehensive schools

You can do anything you set your mind to

 

[WeiWeiMan]

what if extension 1 is also tied, do they consider retarded shitty english then?

they prob just do it based on how clean ur working is/adhering to marking guidelines or tie

 

[99.95dreams]

redeemer isn't terrible, it is around 130. but that kid was definitely an anomaly oml

 

[99.95dreams]

not to say that you couldn't Jane, i just meant that a good amount of work would need to be put into it. but you surely can if you try. a girl from the blue mountains topped ee2 last year, so why not?

 

[melanie_o]

Actually, does anyone know how tiebreakers work? I thought they also considered the quality of your responses

If NESA cannot discriminate between two or more individuals (after looking at their responses and determining each have the same merit of quality), then they will look at their internal rank. If both individuals were both first, then NESA will award them equal 1st place.

 

[melanie_o]

What the title says, bc all of the state ranks are either: selective, private school or really good (top 150) comprehensive schools

Of course you can state rank! Admittedly, some schools have more resources but everyone sits the same HSC exams, so just work hard and see where it takes you. Tbh, some people I know who got a state rank in actuality were not directly aiming for a state rank, more so that they were passionate and willing to put in the work.