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It doesn't change KEQ because KEQ is only changed by Temperature.
In the system however it is still dynamic equilibrium, by adding Argon it increases the pressure of the system and causes it to shift towards the right.
yeah thats what i thought? why are people saying it doesnt change the temp... its 4 marks, clearly they wanted some explanation
 

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You're determining the concentration of silver ions though, aren't you?
Yeah thats why I think its sort of odd. Either way, if we had the silver ions in the conical flask with the indicator, then the silver ions would just form a precipitate with the dichromate. Then, our burette would have the Cl- ions, which wouldnt really make sense. The dichromate is in a very small quantity, so only a very small amount of AgCr2O4 has been produced. Hence, as we add, say 10mL of our Cl- solution, there might not be a very defined colour change, since our indicator has already been consumed. I think it would be a very bad titration, but I agree that the question makes it seem like this.
 

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Yeah thats why I think its sort of odd. Either way, if we had the silver ions in the conical flask with the indicator, then the silver ions would just form a precipitate with the dichromate. Then, our burette would have the Cl- ions, which wouldnt really make sense. The dichromate is in a very small quantity, so only a very small amount of AgCr2O4 has been produced. Hence, as we add, say 10mL of our Cl- solution, there might not be a very defined colour change, since our indicator has already been consumed. I think it would be a very bad titration, but I agree that the question makes it seem like this.
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I was confused because I had thought silver chromate would form a complex (and not precipitate), which meant it would be fine to go in the flask. I've no idea why I assumed this.
 

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I was confused because I had thought silver chromate would form a complex (and not precipitate), which meant it would be fine to go in the flask. I've no idea why I assumed this.
Its honestly a really niche topic, I didn't think they would test precipitation titration because I dont think I actually learned it in class when i did chem last year
 

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I think for the argon gas question they will award marks to both cases.
Its cruel to be misleading us with the temperature and making it 4 marks.
At least make the question: Will equillibrium shift when argon gas is added? 2 marks -this will make students actually think
 

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I think for the argon gas question they will award marks to both cases.
Its cruel to be misleading us with the temperature and making it 4 marks.
At least make the question: Will equillibrium shift when argon gas is added? 2 marks -this will make students actually think
I really really hope so, worst case surely they give 2mks for the "wrong" one?
 

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I think for the argon gas question they will award marks to both cases.
Its cruel to be misleading us with the temperature and making it 4 marks.
At least make the question: Will equillibrium shift when argon gas is added? 2 marks -this will make students actually think
yeah asking about temp made me assume there would be a change in temp
 

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