Cohort ranking for my subjects? (1 Viewer)

[Lilabear]

Hi!

Just wondering what rank i should try be above/at in order to get a 90ish atar. Pretty concerned at the moment because i'm in the bottom 30% of my cohort in most of my subjects.

2017 school rank: 24
2016: 17
2015: 22

End Adv: 160 people, 30.2% of students received b6 in 2017
Eng Ex: 60, 38%
Modern His: 50, 33%
History Ex: 20, 80% students in top 2 bands
Legal: 45, 58.1%
General Maths: 16, 70%

I don't know how realistic band 6's are for me, i'm aiming more for high band 5's.

Thanks

 

[ichila101]

I guess you should try to be in the top 40-50% minimum, but I haven't gone to a school with a very high rank so I wouldn't know too much.

 

[maths314]

It really depends on your school, for a school ranked in the top 20, usually for a 90+ ATAR, you typically want to be in the top 20-25 of your grade. My school was ranked around the back end of this top 20 and many students who were in the lower half of the cohort in the majority of their subjects internally performed very well externally and achieved 90+.

Bottom line, whilst internal ranks matter a lot, by far the most important thing is perfoming well externally and you should be fine!

Good luck with your studies!!

 

[Lilabear]

It really depends on your school, for a school ranked in the top 20, usually for a 90+ ATAR, you typically want to be in the top 20-25 of your grade. My school was ranked around the back end of this top 20 and many students who were in the lower half of the cohort in the majority of their subjects internally performed very well externally and achieved 90+.

Bottom line, whilst internal ranks matter a lot, by far the most important thing is perfoming well externally and you should be fine!

Good luck with your studies!!

Woah that seems really high :/ But does the scaling of your subject effect it? Also the careers advisor told me that the median star is 91...so does that mean 50% of students get 90+?

 

[maths314]

Well, of course, the scaling matters. It would be more likely for you to do better if you came first in 4U maths than first in something like food tech (internally). That being said, if you came in the bottom of 4U maths but state ranked in food tech, usually food tech would result in a better mark. I was under the impression that the state median was 70, but perhaps in your school it was 91, it which case the middle atar is 91 and around 50% would get over 90.

I forgot to mention though that my school had around 100 students, so just over 25% got 90+ Atars.