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hey,
im just working through finding the roots of complex num's and am having problems getting all the right answers for 4 roots and more. could someone please show me the process they use for:
find the five 5th roots of: - √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 (patel 4e-4c)
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*fkr said:
hey,
im just working through finding the roots of complex num's and am having problems getting all the right answers for 4 roots and more. could someone please show me the process they use for:
find the five 5th roots of: - √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 (patel 4e-4c)
cheers
- √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 <--that isn't complex number
 

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- √3 / 2 + 1 / 2
in Rcis@ form it is:
(sqrt3 - 1)/2 * cis(pi)

Ignoring the modulus for now:

z^5=Rcis(pi)
z=rcis([pi+2kpi]/5)
k=0 produces z1=rcis(pi/5)
k=1, z2=rcis(3pi/5)
k=2, z3=-r
k=3, z4=rcis(-3pi/5)
k=4, z5=rcis(-pi/5)
where r=((sqrt3 - 1)/2)^(1/5)

Now multiply all of those roots by the modulus.
 
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100percent said:
- √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 <--that isn't complex number
Yes it is. The set of real numbers is a member of the set of complex numbers.
 

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Slide Rule said:
Yes it is. The set of real numbers is a member of the set of complex numbers.
ok, my bad..explains why i almost failed 4unit :)
 

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100percent said:
- √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 <--that isn't complex number
In addition to slide rule's defintion: - √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 = - √3 / 2 + 1 / 2 + 0i, which is a complex number but where there is no imaginary part to the number. :)
 

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mitsui said:
woot.. cant understand wat every1 is on about. xD
LOL! Have you started complex numbers yet? Nothing to be "wooting" about, :D
 

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Slide Rule said:
- √3 / 2 + 1 / 2
in Rcis@ form it is:
(sqrt3 - 1)/2 * cis(pi)

Ignoring the modulus for now:

z^5=Rcis(pi)
z=rcis([pi+2kpi]/5)
k=0 produces z1=rcis(pi/5)
k=1, z2=rcis(3pi/5)
k=2, z3=-r
k=3, z4=rcis(-3pi/5)
k=4, z5=rcis(-pi/5)
where r=((sqrt3 - 1)/2)^(1/5)

Now multiply all of those roots by the modulus.
do you not also have to take the 5th root of the modulus?

EDIT: sorry ignore me. i didnt read the post carefully enough
 
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It was a poorly constructed post. You won't get an ugly question like that in the HSC.

They can certainly ask for 5th roots but I imagine you'd get a nice modulus and a nice argument.
 

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Its always good to practice i guess. Who knows, you might get thrown one of these as part (a) (i) of question 8...
 

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i asked my teacher today and he said he photocopied the unedited version which has the wrong question for the answer, kadlil was right... but thanks anyway
 
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hehe, still Slide could work it out haha, and I didn't take into account that the complex number was every number :( but now I know :D
 

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