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[neo o]

I prefer to regard myself as moderate, but I suppose I sit on the right a bit, voting Liberal and all. But no, I got 47/50 for 4U English, and got a "flying" 60 for 2U maths. I think there's more of a stereotype that arts students are feral lefty sorts rather than the other way around

I think its just because the lefties tend to be the most vocal.

 

[Ziff]

What i find about arts people is that their views are close to their teachers who are in fact left wing. Why is that? I find this espeacially the case with modern history people. The reason why more science based subjects come up with conservative views is because they make their own judgements, not their teachers

I wouldn't say that's true. I've hold my own opinions that I've developed over time and often actively argued against the extremist left-wing propaganda my English teachers shove down our throat.

My MH teacher doesn't really shove views down our throat, however, I do think that humanities subjects particularly ones like MH do open your eyes to injustices and problems with the world - it also gives you the important gift of being critical (some times excessively or harshly). Modern history more so than other histories has the ability to do this because most of the things that happened are recent, you do end up thinking about how things have developed, why they have developed and if they have developed rightly/adequately.

The same argument could be held for saying that people simply inherit their parent's views, whilst I think that's true sometimes, there's always a huge amount of scope for you to actually develop your own - especially if you can be critical about them and their views, without being bound due t some misguided sense of loyalty or some other junk emotion (in regards to views)

I think it comes down to how much one reads as well, I read and enormous amount and I'm pretty much Centre with slight socially left leanings and right economic leanings. Then again, government control of the economy is an inherently dumb idea - which you would know if you read things!

 

[Ziff]

I think its just because the lefties tend to be the most vocal.

At least in this country, they really are. They have a mind-set of "we're right, and if you don't agree with us, you're too dumb to vote" (of course others have that too).

The right-wing in this country operates less vocally but more underground. Go to any Uni campus (or in the vicinity of one) and you'll see posters for 'The Patriotic Youth League' and random anti-immigration organisations around.

I think the left get more coverage simply because they're loud, but also more credible than the extreme right - who just give everyone a bad name.

 

[neo o]

At least in this country, they really are. They have a mind-set of "we're right, and if you don't agree with us, you're too dumb to vote" (of course others have that too).

I don't see how both blatant arrogance and ignorance are good things.

The right-wing in this country operates less vocally but more underground. Go to any Uni campus (or in the vicinity of one) and you'll see posters for 'The Patriotic Youth League' and random anti-immigration organisations around.

You'll also see posters for socialist groups, I'm not talking extremists - just university kids in general.

I think the left get more coverage simply because they're loud, but also more credible than the extreme right - who just give everyone a bad name.

Right, so stuff like the UTS rampage last year is credible? Organisation such as the Young Liberals do get some coverage, however It's because the left (generalisation) are radical social deliquants that they get media coverage, or do you think the media portrayed the UTS rampage in a positive light ?

 

[Nick]

Go to any Uni campus (or in the vicinity of one) and you'll see posters for 'The Patriotic Youth League' and random anti-immigration organisations around.

patriotism is ridiculous

it's one thing to love the people in your country and not wish harm upon them, it's another to worship man made constructs like a flag and a nation

 

[paper cup]

Please, I would like to see an example. Aquisthian writes total crap. Testosterone supplement? WTF?

Cherry, you created a shit thread that has absolutely nothing to do with politics. It belongs in NS.

and you have insulted muslims.
who is the greater criminal?
Nick...so you would prefer...no patriotism at all?
hold on, I did this with iron woman. nope, somebody else is going to have to argue with you.
Yes I know ziff...I do everything except eco...and I'm not really left either...I think it's just the overload from SC history and civics...
I want to see the abolishment of the glass ceiling..the government to care about ATSI and rural people.
And my legal studies teacher is a leftie, so there's the influence ;p

 

[Nick]

Nick...so you would prefer...no patriotism at all?

yes, think how many wars are sparked by nationalism and rivalling cultural identities

if we all were just pro humans, rather than pro humans that live in a certain area and have been there for a certain amount of time (ie anti immigrants) then the world would be a better place

 

[Gregor Samsa]

What i find about arts people is that their views are close to their teachers who are in fact left wing. Why is that? I find this espeacially the case with modern history people. The reason why more science based subjects come up with conservative views is because they make their own judgements, not their teachers

Hmm.. Using that same logic, you could argue that more science based students have conservative views due to the less flexible methodology and concrete answers (Which are easier to learn by rote) in those subjects...

 

[thorrnydevil]

and you have insulted muslims.
who is the greater criminal?
Nick...so you would prefer...no patriotism at all?
hold on, I did this with iron woman. nope, somebody else is going to have to argue with you.
Yes I know ziff...I do everything except eco...and I'm not really left either...I think it's just the overload from SC history and civics...
I want to see the abolishment of the glass ceiling..the government to care about ATSI and rural people.
And my legal studies teacher is a leftie, so there's the influence ;p

When did I insult muslims? I'd like an example please. I have always been objective of EVERY religion.

 

[paper cup]

When did I insult muslims? I'd like an example please. I have always been objective of EVERY religion.

indonesia. it was offensive.
but let's not rehash.

 

[santaslayer]

In actual fact I don't like any thing in the polarised ends of the spectrum. I dig Moonlight, too bad he's a he. Would someone please tell the homosexuals at my uni to shuddup. I don't have anything against homosexuals, but the minority of them are attemoting to appear to be the majority....

 

[thorrnydevil]

indonesia. it was offensive.
but let's not rehash.

My comments on Indonesia weren't offensive. What is wrong with stating that Muslim extremists may chose to attack Australia. If I'm not mistaken they actually attacked the Australain embassy. Shit, so I was right. If feel you owe me an apology now.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

no you're obviously wrong u crazy right wing bastard.
Go see Fahrenheit 9/11.

 

[neo o]

In actual fact I don't like any thing in the polarised ends of the spectrum. I dig Moonlight, too bad he's a he. Would someone please tell the homosexuals at my uni to shuddup. I don't have anything against homosexuals, but the minority of them are attemoting to appear to be the majority....

ITS JUST BECAUSE YOUR UNI IS THE MOST HOMOPHOBIC UNI IN THE COUNTRY YOU HOMOPHONE YOU!11!!!!!!1 LOLLERRRROFLESdhewfhewkfewfwefdwfqwef

 

[Ziff]

In actual fact I don't like any thing in the polarised ends of the spectrum. I dig Moonlight, too bad he's a he. Would someone please tell the homosexuals at my uni to shuddup. I don't have anything against homosexuals, but the minority of them are attemoting to appear to be the majority....

The extremist homosexual minority of the homosexual minority at UOW is a concern.

 

[loquasagacious]

Wow! Extremist homosexuals are challenging your perceptions.

I'm sorry the language you're using makes it sound like this is the situation:

My fellow hetrosexuals it is my melancholy duty to inform you that we are at war. We are beset by an enemy from within, the homosexual. You probably know one, but do not let this shake you in your staunch resolve.

A homosexual army is waging guerilla warfare across the campus's of our great sexuality, striking at night in over-whelming numbers and then disappearing into the student population at dawn (made easier because they are just like us), sometimes they are sheltered by those of our own kind who have turned against us - metrosexuals. These, people, are scum they have betrayed the ideals of this great sexuality that I call hetrosexuality, they are traitors and turncoats. Avert your eyes when you see them, do not let them know that you know what they are. Strike at night, carve this cancer from us.

As we speak and darkness begins to fall hundreds nay thousands are readying for tonights operations, fanning out across the country they are striking out destroying the very things which make Australia well Australian. Explosives have been planted in all 'big-things', football teams are being attacked and beaten up. Guerrilla operatives are raiding backyards and destroying not only all hills-hoists but victa mowers while they're there.

Make no mistake about it my hetrosexuals, we are at war. We are fighting an enemy who will not relent and we must prevail or we shall be lost in the sands of time. We will fight them in the football clubs, we will fight them by the pokies, we will fight them at the bar. And we shall previal for we have strength in our morals, strength in our convictions and because we are under as great a threat as we have ever faced. Onwards my noble hetrosexuals! Onwards to victory! Victory or homosexuality!

 

[Ziff]

Wow! Extremist homosexuals are challenging your perceptions.

I'm sorry the language you're using makes it sound like this is the situation:

My fellow hetrosexuals it is my melancholy duty to inform you that we are at war. We are beset by an enemy from within, the homosexual. You probably know one, but do not let this shake you in your staunch resolve.

A homosexual army is waging guerilla warfare across the campus's of our great sexuality, striking at night in over-whelming numbers and then disappearing into the student population at dawn (made easier because they are just like us), sometimes they are sheltered by those of our own kind who have turned against us - metrosexuals. These, people, are scum they have betrayed the ideals of this great sexuality that I call hetrosexuality, they are traitors and turncoats. Avert your eyes when you see them, do not let them know that you know what they are. Strike at night, carve this cancer from us.

As we speak and darkness begins to fall hundreds nay thousands are readying for tonights operations, fanning out across the country they are striking out destroying the very things which make Australia well Australian. Explosives have been planted in all 'big-things', football teams are being attacked and beaten up. Guerrilla operatives are raiding backyards and destroying not only all hills-hoists but victa mowers while they're there.

Make no mistake about it my hetrosexuals, we are at war. We are fighting an enemy who will not relent and we must prevail or we shall be lost in the sands of time. We will fight them in the football clubs, we will fight them by the pokies, we will fight them at the bar. And we shall previal for we have strength in our morals, strength in our convictions and because we are under as great a threat as we have ever faced. Onwards my noble hetrosexuals! Onwards to victory! Victory or homosexuality!

No, they're not challenging anything. The only difference between a homosexual and a heterosexual is that one likes the other sex, the other likes the same sex. That's it. I think you fail to understand the concept that I don't actually care what other people do, so long as it doesn't impinge on me somehow.

Extremeist homosexuals like 'The Fab Five' and the UOW extremists are trying to polarise people, they are divisive and outright harming their cause (for marriage etc) and giving all of them a bad reputation. They're making themselves look like outright fools:

http://www.boredofstudies.org/community/showthread.php?t=39735

 

[thorrnydevil]

Wow! Extremist homosexuals are challenging your perceptions.

I'm sorry the language you're using makes it sound like this is the situation:

My fellow hetrosexuals it is my melancholy duty to inform you that we are at war. We are beset by an enemy from within, the homosexual. You probably know one, but do not let this shake you in your staunch resolve.

A homosexual army is waging guerilla warfare across the campus's of our great sexuality, striking at night in over-whelming numbers and then disappearing into the student population at dawn (made easier because they are just like us), sometimes they are sheltered by those of our own kind who have turned against us - metrosexuals. These, people, are scum they have betrayed the ideals of this great sexuality that I call hetrosexuality, they are traitors and turncoats. Avert your eyes when you see them, do not let them know that you know what they are. Strike at night, carve this cancer from us.

As we speak and darkness begins to fall hundreds nay thousands are readying for tonights operations, fanning out across the country they are striking out destroying the very things which make Australia well Australian. Explosives have been planted in all 'big-things', football teams are being attacked and beaten up. Guerrilla operatives are raiding backyards and destroying not only all hills-hoists but victa mowers while they're there.

Make no mistake about it my hetrosexuals, we are at war. We are fighting an enemy who will not relent and we must prevail or we shall be lost in the sands of time. We will fight them in the football clubs, we will fight them by the pokies, we will fight them at the bar. And we shall previal for we have strength in our morals, strength in our convictions and because we are under as great a threat as we have ever faced. Onwards my noble hetrosexuals! Onwards to victory! Victory or homosexuality!

I found your post quite amusing!