Credit point changes for next year. (1 Viewer)

[aditya]

Hey ive been hearing things from numerous sources about units that are worth 8cp becoming 6cp as of next year?

Firstly what is the reliablilty of this information, is it a possibility or has a decision been taken, and also will the 6cp subjects become 4cp?or will the reamin 6cp? or will none of this ever happen altogether...

if you do reply to this, please just state your source because i gotta plan out my thing and it would be really helpful if someone could give me credible information - my goals are tight and i REALLLY would appreciate it if someone could help.

thank you

 

[stazi]

I remember reading that as of next year the credit points for all senior units will be standardised to 6.c.p. This was when I was browsing the usyd website early january perhaps? I thought it was for the year we're currently entering, but obviously it hasn't been implemented yet, so I assume it's for next year.
Speaking to people when enrolling (lecturers etc) they said the credit point standardisation doesn't affect us this year, only the next.
Speaking to a 2nd year student who seemed pretty knowledgable, she said that we'd have to do more units as a way of the uni to make more money due to the lower c.p. requirements.
Speaking to a 3rd year student, he said that he was glad he's finishing as we'll have to do more units and apparently the 1st year c.p's will become 4c.p.

However, there is a big problem! We could now complete a major with 2 jnr, 4 snr units. A double major with 6 snr, 2 jnr. This is going to change We now need 6snr, 2 jnr for a major. This is bloody rediculous. For those of us who wish to do more units for fun, we're going to be hampered by a tighter schedule. Much much much much tighter.

EDIT: Actually found document. Apparently we don't have to follow the standardised rules unless we enrol in 2006. I will be interested to know if we can in fact follow these standardised rules if we wish to take up more units?
http://www.econ.usyd.edu.au/content.php?pageid=14604
So it's pretty much big work load vs smaller work load. Double major vs single major.
I am slightly pissed off. I didn't think they'd change the major requirements.

 

[stazi]

Also, seems to be interesting to note:
Under the old (current) system:
Major: 44 credit points (4*8) + (2*6) = 4snr and 2 jnr
Double major: 60c.p. (6*8) + (2*6) = 6snr and 2 jnr

It doesn't look like junior credit points wil be 4 in value so the new system major/double major will look like this:
Major: 48 credit points (6*8) 8 units of study
Double major: 60c.p. (6*10) 10 units of study

So I see benefit in doing a double major. However, I do believe 10 units is a bit too extreme. This may involve doing units which are pointless for what you want to do (eg. e-marketing for me, as I'm not interested in that form)

Also, although they are saying the workload will be smaller for 6c.p. subject I really doubt it. Say, with New Products marketing, (this is hypothetical) you ordinarily do chapters 1-15 of the text book. Each of these chapters is required for understanding how to do the group project for the subject. You will cover less aspects of the chapters in class, but will still 'unofficially' need to study the rest of it.
Even in the mktg unit I'm currently doing, we're not covering market research, but it's beneficial to go over the chapter as it has many useful things for our group project.

The number of hours doesn't also seem to be decreasing for the 6.c.p units.

I am slightly pissed off, I was all for being able to do more units. I think it's best to know as much as you can. It makes you a more interesting person and will help you with a job as you'll be an all-rounder in education terms. However, it would be much nicer to not load one up with unnecessary units to get a major.
Basically what this means is that you'll become less specialised in each individual unit of study (due to the credit point cuts). Many people wish to focus on say, Conflict resolution at work. Instead they will have to experience a less thorough course for this, and be practically forced to learn unnecessary units.

I'll have to think long and hard on whether I would switch to the new standard.

 

[Sarah168]

ok, so in short. Does this affect those enrolled in 2005? In your first post, you said it doesnt and now you're pissed about the new system? Im confused. Bah. I can barely calculate credit points for a Sem let alone my whole degree. Im so f*cked.

 

[stazi]

I seem to be reading conflicting things. One one hand it says, it doesn't affect pre-2006ers. On the other hand it says there'll be specially designed 2c.p. units for pre-06ers to help them make up the new credit point requirements.
I'm mostly pissed off because it'll be a big choice if they let us make it. I wouldnt mind doing more subjects. But it'd be so much damn harder.
Also, if i dont get into commerce (liberal studies) then it would pretty much make my marketing major impossible to get. Fuck.

 

[aditya]

what are u talking about man, if u wanna do more units for interests sake then this is much better for u lol

and it isnt gonna be that much more workload bro, think about it, u do 24cp in a sem, so instead of doing 3 senour subjects ull be doing 4.... this is HEAPS better!!! 3 subjects would prolli be too easy anyway....

 

[stazi]

Hehe true. I know you're like me - also want to do as much as possible.
The main problem I have with this is that if I don't get a D avg to xfer to commerce lib studies next year, I'm screwed for my marketing major. As my degree requires me to do a prescribed major and minor. I wouldn't be able to double major in mktg, and would have to really sacrifice doing anything else in order to major in mktg.

 

[stazi]

Ok guys. This is the official word. Sounds excellent :

Dear Stas

In the next month or so, the Faculty will be distributing an information package to our students about the changes relating to standardisation. Consistent with Academic Board guidelines, we are currently applying a Student Workload-Credit Formula to all our 8 credit point units in order to re-weight the student effort required to a value of 6 credit points. This may alter in class hours, out of class hours or assessment requirements for our current senior units.

Students who commenced their degree prior to 2006 will be offered the opportunity to either move to the new standardised degree resolutions or complete their award under the resolutions in which they commenced. You will not need to make this decision until later in the year and we will send out information then to assist you with your decision.

Junior units will remain 6 credit points. Under standardisation a major will be defined as a minimum of two junior and six senior units of study and a double major will be relabelled "advanced major" will be defined as a minimum of two junior and eight senior units of study as it is now.

The above information is all contained in the information package we will be sending out to all students shortly.

Kind Regards,

Kate Farrant

 

[withoutaface]

Sounds similar to what they did for engineering, where they took all the four credit point units and merged them together into six credit points so that people who are doing combined degrees wouldn't have to have an awkward number of credit points each semester.

 

[aditya]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 1Time4thePpl again.


lol damn, u deserve it mate, thanks for that info.