Does God Exist? (2 Viewers)

[Inscrutable]

u see the quran is from gods words and not humans, and if humans wrote the bible, we all know humans make mistakes so i wouldnt expect it to be fully right, get it?

 

[soha]

sometimes i wonder
what keeps these christians christians..how they cant see what some people claim to be total crap and bullshit
and why they cant see it
(im not saying it is)just example
and why cant they see the contradictions..?
i mean..so many ppl claim so much stuff..but they cant see it
just like..the non believers cant see the truth etc..
so weird..isnt it

 

[Jiga]

Thats because the believers r blind. I use to be a christan, chruch every Sunday etc. But then I realised partially through school teaching that the bible was full of it. It doesnt take Einstein to realise that.

 

[soha]

but then the believers say that the non believers are blind
like..what opens ppls eyes to join religons..and to step out of religon
i dunno..its so different and effects everyone diferently
i wanna look into it

 

[Inscrutable]

sometimes i wonder
what keeps these christians christians..how they cant see what some people claim to be total crap and bullshit
and why they cant see it
(im not saying it is)just example
and why cant they see the contradictions..?
i mean..so many ppl claim so much stuff..but they cant see it
just like..the non believers cant see the truth etc..
so weird..isnt it

u see soha, people are brought up to believe such things and trust me once they actually read the quran, they switch without second thoughts
i have many friends to back that up

 

[soha]

yeah i know..i know someone who sat down to read the koran to write down a list of things that were wrong with it..like contradictions etc
he sat down and was searching..eventually he got so into it trying to find error in this book..like 8 hours straight went by...non stop he was reading
then he got so furious he found nothing..he started crying..and got upset ..he got upset because he had the intention to proove the words of god wrong
yet he just discovered how beautiful it was..and accepted islam
wowies..

 

[waterfowl]

And even if you were to bring to the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) all the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), they would not follow your Qiblah (prayer direction), nor are you going to follow their Qiblah (prayer direction). And they will not follow each others Qiblah (prayer direction). Verily, if you follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed you will be one of the Zalimoon (polytheists, wrong-doers, etc.). (Al-Baqara Chapter #2, Verse #145)


There's a bit of a false statement, Christians and Jews don't have a Qiblah

 

[Jiga]

Non-belivers (for the most part) aernt blind, I myself consider myself open if someone can prove their is a god/the bible is right. Believers on the other hand aernt open minded, they just believe in one thing. No matter what religious affiliation your with though, I dont think theres an afterlife etc. I have no idea what the Koran says bout this issue....

 

[Inscrutable]

And even if you were to bring to the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) all the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), they would not follow your Qiblah (prayer direction), nor are you going to follow their Qiblah (prayer direction). And they will not follow each others Qiblah (prayer direction). Verily, if you follow their desires after that which you have received of knowledge (from Allah), then indeed you will be one of the Zalimoon (polytheists, wrong-doers, etc.). (Al-Baqara Chapter #2, Verse #145)


There's a bit of a false statement, Christians and Jews don't have a Qiblah

u see in the quran, it is always right, but its translations can sometimes be different and create what seems to be false statements, i cant say more than that cause you'd have to have great knowledge in islam and arabic to prove you wrong but yeh a million things like this one come up and always proved wrong

 

[soha]

even if thou wert to bring the people of the book all the signs (together) they would not follow the Qibla; nor art thou going to follow their Qibla, nor indeed, will they follow eachotehrs Qibla. If thou after knowledge hath reached thee, wert to follow their (vain) desires,-then wert thou (clearly) in the wrong

 

[waterfowl]

u see in the quran, it is always right, but its translations can sometimes be different and create what seems to be false statements, i cant say more than that cause you'd have to have great knowledge in islam and arabic to prove you wrong but yeh a million things like this one come up and always proved wrong

The same thing can be said of the Bible, that translations can create what seem to be false statements, and only someone with a great knowledge of Hebrew, Greek etc could prove that.

 

[soha]

jerusalem dude is their qiblah
lol.how could u not know that

bethlaham where jesus was born
ibrahams grave
the temple..

 

[Inscrutable]

The same thing can be said of the Bible, that translations can create what seem to be false statements, and only someone with a great knowledge of Hebrew, Greek etc could prove that.

no man, thats different, i meant translations as in what people say one book says and youre talking about translations of some writing that end up being proved wrong in the next chapter, its all diff

 

[waterfowl]

jerusalem dude is their qiblah
lol.how could u not know that

Is there another translation of Qiblah? Because Jews and Christians don't pray in the direction of Jerusalem, nor do we in anyway metaphorically direct our prayers to Jerusalem.

 

[waterfowl]

no man, thats different, i meant translations as in what people say one book says and youre talking about translations of some writing that end up being proved wrong in the next chapter, its all diff

Give me ten of these 1001 contradictions.

 

[soha]

its like ur pilgramage
religous people go and visit the grave or prophet ibraham(jews)
or the christians visit the birthplace of jesus
its not directing to prayer only

 

[waterfowl]

And they (Jews, Christians and pagans) say: God has begotten a son (children or offspring). Al-Baqara 2:116


When did the Jews or Christians ever say God had begotten a son?

 

[soha]

let me find my 1001 contradictions in the bible book
and get back to you
i dont know them off the top of my head...
i barely read the book..a few pages..
but when i find it..i will surely let you know...

 

[soha]

And they (Jews, Christians and pagans) say: God has begotten a son (children or offspring). Al-Baqara 2:116


When did the Jews or Christians ever say God had begotten a son?

christians jesus is the son of god

they say "(allah) hath begotten a son glory be to him nay
to him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth
everything renders worshipt to him

 

[Inscrutable]

And they (Jews, Christians and pagans) say: God has begotten a son (children or offspring). Al-Baqara 2:116


When did the Jews or Christians ever say God had begotten a son?

Do you have any knowledge or are u just saying crap to fill boredom