Does God Exist? (1 Viewer)

[MoonlightSonata]

If you did a bit of reasearch ud realise that these are metaphorical descriptions and that words like 'earth' and 'world' are often used to describe the human race

Lev. 11:4 states that rabbits chew their cud.
Lev. 11:20-23 speaks of four-legged insects, including grasshoppers.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Genesis 1
12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning-the third day.
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.

yes explain how that is a metaphor.

 

[dark_angel]

Maybe your not very helpful or memorable

wtf...................

 

[dark_angel]

Genesis 1
12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning-the third day.
14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.

yes explain how that is a metaphor.

hahahhahaha actually the moon reflects light off the sun, so in this case there is only 1 'light'

 

[MoonlightSonata]

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hahahhahaha actually the moon reflects light off the sun, so in this case there is only 1 'light'

LOL

 

[Not-That-Bright]

congratulations you just made fun of your own bible lol

edit: sorry forgot ur muslim, perhaps i should find some from the koran?

 

[joujou_84]

congratulations you just made fun of your own bible lol

edit: sorry forgot ur muslim, perhaps i should find some from the koran?

huh?........

 

[joujou_84]

oh i get it...........well for the past yr ive managed to study heaps...........put forward ur contradictions and ill try my best or pass them on.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

The Cow:
282 O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you (in terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call two witness from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not at hand, then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if one erreth (though forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be no averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell to one another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.

Basically, Women are worth 1/2 what men are

228 Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.

Men are a degree above women

 

[Not-That-Bright]

i was talking to dark_angel or whateva her name is

 

[joujou_84]

The Cow:
282 O ye who believe! When ye contract a debt for a fixed term, record it in writing. Let a scribe record it in writing between you (in terms of) equity. No scribe should refuse to write as Allah hath taught him, so let him write, and let him who incurreth the debt dictate, and let him observe his duty to Allah his Lord, and diminish naught thereof. But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak, or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call two witness from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not at hand, then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if one erreth (though forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be no averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah and more sure for testimony, and the best way of avoiding doubt between you; save only in the case when it is actual merchandise which ye transfer among yourselves from hand to hand. In that case it is no sin for you if ye write it not. And have witnesses when ye sell to one another, and let no harm be done to scribe or witness. If ye do (harm to them) lo! it is a sin in you. Observe your duty to Allah. Allah is teaching you. And Allah is knower of all things.

Basically, Women are worth 1/2 what men are

228 Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.

Men are a degree above women

1) women work with their emotions rather than their brain.......u need two so that u can make sure the other isnt too leniant.
2) degree above them in terms of marriage i suppose.......like women have to wait 4 months to marry again whilst men can marry straight away.

 

[withoutaface]

Lev. 11:4 states that rabbits chew their cud.
Lev. 11:20-23 speaks of four-legged insects, including grasshoppers.

If you're taking Leviticus literally you are a moron.

 

[osk]

Genesis... there are plants before there is sunlight...

DT 6:5, MT 22:37, MK 12:30, LK 10:27 Love God.
DT 6:13, PS 33:8, 34:9, 111:10, 115:13, 128:1, 147:11, PR 8:13, 16:6, 19:23, 22:4, IS 8:13, LK 12:5, 1PE 2:17 Fear God.
1JN 4:18 There is no fear in love.

PR 30:5 Every word of God proves true.
1KI 22:23, 2CH 18:22, JE 4:10, JE 20:7, EZ 14:9 God deceives some of the prophets.
JE 8:8 The scribes falsify the word.
2TH 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked (to be able to condemn them).

GE 1:3-5, 14-19 There was light ("night and day") before there was a sun. (Note: If there were no sun, there would be no night or day. Also, light from the newly created heavenly bodies seems to have reached the earth instantaneously though it now takes thousands or millions of years.)

GE 6:15 The size of Noah's Ark was such that there would be about one and a half cubic feet for each pair of the 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 species to be taken aboard.

GE 32:24-30 God takes part in a wrestling match. He wins by injuring Jacob's hip.

The Fear reffered to in 1Jn 4:18 is fear of damnation...not fear of God

God Himself provided the source of light prior to the sun....he created the light so that it already extended from the stars to the earth..and did not have to travel there

God's creation of the world was a miraculous event......conditions were not as they are today.....hence the plants without light....whose to say the light that God provided didnt feed them anyway?

The reference to wrestling with God refers to and Angel of God......

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i2/animals.asp

 

[Not-That-Bright]

The Women:
34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other

 

[lengstar]

If you're taking Leviticus literally you are a moron.

Yeah! God would never make you sacrifice your son! Only your daughter!

 

[Not-That-Bright]

So back then there was two sources of light? back then there were plants before there was sun?
The truth is the turn of events discribed in the bibe are not supported by geological surveys on the basic makeup of the earths soil

 

[joujou_84]

The Women:
34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other

ah mr u might wanna quote correctly

it actually says

"men r the maintainers of women because allah has made some excel others and coz they spend out of their property"

excel means they excel in the area of working and taking care of women. it is thier job in islam to provide for the woman, the woman can work yet it is not obligatory for her........however it is obligatory for them man to work and provide for her.

 

[osk]

The Bible says several things that you probably don't believe:

Slavery is acceptable. [Skeptic's Annotated Bible, n.d.]
You should kill your child if he strikes you. [Ex. 21:15]
If you work on Sunday, you should be put to death. [Ex. 35:2-3]
If you curse, you should be stoned to death. [Lev. 24:14-15]
Happiness is smashing children upon the rocks. [Psalms 137:9]
Women should be subjugated by their husbands. [1 Pet. 3:1-7]

etc.

please give me a verse on slavery that i can repond to

points 2-3 are from the Jewish Law which was intented only for Jews as way of staying Holy and is not followed by Chrsitians

The bit about smashing kids is actually a prophetic statement in reference to the destruction of Babylon

If you had a careful read....the Bible says that although husbands have headship over wives......the husbands are to treat their wives with the utmost respect and love them unconditionally.....also the husband takes on all the wives punishments...he is accountable for her actions...not as unequal as u thought eh

 

[osk]

So back then there was two sources of light? back then there were plants before there was sun?
The truth is the turn of events discribed in the bibe are not supported by geological surveys on the basic makeup of the earths soil

Well those are your interpreations of the fact...

I reccomend this website

http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/qa.asp

 

[Generator]

As anti-christian as I may be, at least I do take pleasure in trying to destroy what another holds dear.

Edit: In other words, is this debate (that neither side is capable of 'winning') worth the effort?