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dark_angel said:
is wearing a hajab culture or religion?
During the times of Mohammed when the Quran was recorded by his scribes, women were attacked by crazy men, literally. As a form of protection, the hijab was worn.
 

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dark_angel said:
my point was that i just proved that quotes from the net can be accurate

and i dont know what is wrong with the verse, beating is beating, even if it is lightly or strongly
that was the first from the 80 quotes u quoted that u actually got right.....and i dont know wat u find is wrong with it.....if a women leaves her husband and children and spends her time out on the town abandoning them and her religion and duties then she deserves a beating.......however its a last resort......u have to go through sooooo many things b4 u can actually hit her.....so its a last resort..if she fails to starighten up she eventually get a beating....a well deserved one i would imagine...
 

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Lightly beating is totally different from strong beating. Hence the word "lightly" in brackets from the verse. Don't tell me you don't know the difference. And, it is totally different from the article one. :rolleyes:

wtf? thats like saying i shot someone in the arm (lightly) as opposed to shooting him in the head!

i still shot the guy didnt i???
 

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dark_angel said:
is wearing a hajab culture or religion?
No, as joujou mentioned it's religion. Oh for crying out loud, you didn't stereotype me as an arab woman did you? Geez man, what people define Muslims these days???? My culture is indian/pakistani if you really wanted to know.

I've said this before somewhere else and I'll say it again not all Muslims are arabs and not all arabs are Muslims
 

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Kulazzi said:
No, as joujou mentioned it's religion. Oh for crying out loud, you didn't stereotype me as an arab woman did you? Geez man, what people define Muslims these days???? My culture is indian/pakistani if you really wanted to know.

I've said this before somewhere else and I'll say it again not all Muslims are arabs and not all arabs are Muslims
and im aussie so i havent got any traditions......the one thing that binds us all is islam and the quran....
 

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dark_angel said:
wtf? thats like saying i shot someone in the arm (lightly) as opposed to shooting him in the head!

i still shot the guy didnt i???
that's not in this context. It's not beating. You cannot twist your words. And I don't think there's such thing as shooting someone in the arm lightly as opposed to shooting in the head. A bullet is a bullet. It cannot be shot lightly.
 

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dark_angel said:
wtf? thats like saying i shot someone in the arm (lightly) as opposed to shooting him in the head!

i still shot the guy didnt i???
dark angel........u can slap someone......or u can bash them until u break their jaw and fracture their skull.......there is a huge difference.......
 

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Kulazzi said:
Lightly beating is totally different from strong beating. Hence the word "lightly" in brackets from the verse. Don't tell me you don't know the difference. And, it is totally different from the article one. :rolleyes:

The Bible has numerous tales of incest and murder. Look at the major ethical problems of today: pornography, the pedeophiles (even the priests), crime rates.

On the other hand, are you telling me that that's all okay because the Quran has one thing that is not approved by the western (and therefore western ideologies) responder?
 

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joujou_84 said:
nothing....we have religion and religion is our life...i guess ppl from different nations might have their own traditions but religion is a way of life.....
yes, but a religion is a set of beliefs,

culture is " the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group" [dictionary.com]

therefore, religion is essentially culture.
 

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dark_angel said:
yes, but a religion is a set of beliefs,

culture is " the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group" [dictionary.com]

therefore, religion is essentially culture.
we follow the words of the quran.....everything from waking up in the morning to sleeping at night and in between is in the quran ......end of story....
 

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somechick said:
During the times of Mohammed when the Quran was recorded by his scribes, women were attacked by crazy men, literally. As a form of protection, the hijab was worn.
huh, can you explain this a bit more, i'm interested...

also, if this is the case, y do women still wear it.

the chances of being attacked by crazy men is quite low now, although its happened to me i think.
 

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Kulazzi said:
No, as joujou mentioned it's religion. Oh for crying out loud, you didn't stereotype me as an arab woman did you? Geez man, what people define Muslims these days???? My culture is indian/pakistani if you really wanted to know.

I've said this before somewhere else and I'll say it again not all Muslims are arabs and not all arabs are Muslims
what the?!?!? it dosnet matter if your arab or not, the point is, you still abide by the quran.

and i didnt want to know if you were indian or paki.
 

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Kulazzi said:
that's not in this context. It's not beating. You cannot twist your words. And I don't think there's such thing as shooting someone in the arm lightly as opposed to shooting in the head. A bullet is a bullet. It cannot be shot lightly.
thats exactly my point
 

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somechick said:
The Bible has numerous tales of incest and murder. Look at the major ethical problems of today: pornography, the pedeophiles (even the priests), crime rates.

On the other hand, are you telling me that that's all okay because the Quran has one thing that is not approved by the western (and therefore western ideologies) responder?
doing beat lightly is okay for eg. hitting lightly on the arm with a rolled newspaper as opposed to fully beating with a belt (completely forbidden). Yes. The Qur'an was revealed just over 1400 yeas ago, which mind you is a very long time.
 

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dark angel........truthfully now.....do shikh's hate muslims....coz i swear to god everytime a see a shikh man......he gives me a death look.......
 

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dark_angel said:
yes, but a religion is a set of beliefs,

culture is " the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group" [dictionary.com]

therefore, religion is essentially culture.
omg !!!! are you insane!

there are muslims in africa. they are nomads they speak a different language, live by a different code of ethics. there are muslims in america who live by their own morals . are you saying they are the same!!!
culture is ENTIRELY different to religion.
 

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joujou_84 said:
dark angel........u can slap someone......or u can bash them until u break their jaw and fracture their skull.......there is a huge difference.......
u still cause them pain, which cannot be described because it is a subjective entity
 

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dark_angel said:
thats exactly my point
It's different. so what, you think slightly hitting on the arm with a rolled newspaper is the same as whacking your wife with a belt? No, I don't think so.
 

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