does "shallow" art pass? (1 Viewer)

[dark*sparkle]

hey guys just wanted to get some opinions on whether purely aesthetic art can score high in the hsc? or does it have to or should have some "deeper meaning"? does it really matter in terms of marking?

 

[Not-That-Bright]

It depends, if you make something that appears to have an obvious meaning they won't even ask you for your diary.

 

[Daemontreu]

Meh, I don't see why not. Even if it's a purely aesthetic work there has to have been SOME thought process behind it as to why it is purely aesthetic. Which, I mean... obviously there was if you've done it.

Besides which, you could just say that it was coming from the structural frame, or the subjective frame - trying to ellicit a certain response in the viewer through the way it looks.

 

[miffytoki]

if its shallow...it better be a really really reaaaaallly like GREAT piece of art.....hehe...or have one kind of really innovative meaning to it.

 

[johnson]

i don't think purely aesthetic art = shallow art, and neither do the markers. my friend took a bunch of pictures of a little girl in a park playing on the playground equipment, which had no apparent meaning, and drew some really beautiful pencil drawings based on them.

and in the end the emotions conjured up through the subject matter and through her technical skills made the artwork sophisticated in itself

 

[Not-That-Bright]

I can't imagine something beautiful which doesn't seem to have a great meaning..

 

[Jase]

You can't? What about, porn. Just drawing an analogy here.. It's almost purely aesthetic in that very little left brain is used. But that dosn't detract from it's *excuse the word-'beauty'.

In the same way an abstract, minimalist or renaissance sculpture is raw beauty and that in itself is meaning.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

alot of people consider porn art...

A bunch of people have criticised me.. however softly about my artwork having little/no meaning, because it is computer generated and it is fairly aesthetically pleasing...
It seems to me although when a work is made.. that is aesthetically pleasing, people automatically assume no meaning... while a simple work is considered to have had alot of thought put into it.

 

[lindal372]

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[Jase]

ahaha.. what's wrong?
Your finger cramped on the ellipses key?

 

[mcjaffa]

bah! i hate wankorific art theory!! i hate the whole idea of concepts behind art and "what the artist has intended by creating this work". because most of the time the stuff i've made that i DESPISE, people love, and vice versa for stuff i've done that i actually like.

my friend did a truly beautiful collection of works depicting her sister, and because it was so aesthetically gorgeous, people didn't question the meaning behind it. i always had people coming up to me and asking me what my work was about, even though it was about my sister also; i had just chosen to do it in a different media and form... wow that makes mine sound really bad, heh

 

[piratedebbie]

isnt there meaning behind everything - even if the artist didnt intend there to be any? i mean, we have forever been drawing out meanings from artworks that might not even have been intended by the artist to have meaning . its probably important that ppl can find their own meaning in someone else artworks, even if it doesnt align to teh artists intentions. and thats wat ur artwork should have - a clear passage to be able to find meaning... u dont need a pre-demonstrated meaning

 

[mcjaffa]

hehehe well yeah it's my theory that if it's come from my mind, it obviously has some sort of meaning. everything has a PURPOSE... eg the plants outside my window grow for several reasons: to feed the birds, to make our garden look pretty... i mean they have a purpose but they never once thought about it, did they??

to draw a looooong parallel, i think the same applies for art. surrealism was concerned with the subconscious and dali himself even said he didn't know what people got out of his art cos HE didn't even know what it meant...! so mine was basically an exploration of thought processes etc. or so i said. who knows

 

[piratedebbie]

my artwork was originally very specific and individual to me. its sole purpose was a representation if me but wen we hadour little min exhibition...all these ppl were telling me wat they thought of i and how it represented them and his and that . and it didnt make me feel "well no thats NOT wat i meant"... instead i liked that they got a different thing from it each , more universal

 

[mcjaffa]

my artwork was originally very specific and individual to me. its sole purpose was a representation if me but wen we hadour little min exhibition...all these ppl were telling me wat they thought of i and how it represented them and his and that . and it didnt make me feel "well no thats NOT wat i meant"... instead i liked that they got a different thing from it each , more universal

yeah often i find i like other peoples' interpretations of my work better than my own. they're more indepth, and usually attribute more meaning to the work than i intended

the only reason i came up with that meaning that i did was to give an answer that people would just nod their heads to in pretend understanding... i was sick of people questioning the conceptual value of it....! that's a bit contradictory to what i just said but ARGH it's sunday and i can't think!!

 

[piratedebbie]

yeh agreed.... im more interested in the process... hahha *i just love art dont kill me for it* is my general reaction wen my teacher starts interrogating me on meanings

 

[pocohantas]

shallow or stupid?

One. Since when is aesthetic art ‘shallow’, the last thing we need are more desperately “deep and meaningful” hsc student artworks….personally I’m sick to death of seeing the good old…”I’m a depressed teenager with so much pent up anger” art works…they r generally more shallow in their desperate attempts to be meaningful and are usually hideous..
The bos doesn’t want a crap piece of art with some stupid contrived meaning….the markers only see your work not your explanation of it…basically you are marked on…originality yes.,…so make it your own but if I were u I’d spend the time creating a good work…not one full of ‘meaning”

 

[P*O*R*T*I*A]

yeah and don't make artworks out of your dads giant suite... the BOS don't like them do they Em!

 

[pocohantas]

Giant Suits For Ever

PORTIA
giant suits rock, especially when painted in a matisse like style and when, lets say you got you father to sport this luxury suit complete with matching brief case this work, would in my opinion rock the CASBALL!!!!

hahahaha

mr masstise couldnt ask for a better art work

 

[Jase]

what? did she say suite or suit. ?