Eco vs Comm (2 Viewers)

[paper cup]

If anyone has any information about these degrees, please post.

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Overall, the Bachelor of Commerce is more flexible than the Bachelor of
Economics.?As part of the Commerce degree students must select a core/major
area of study, and they choose from majors in:?Accounting, Business Information
Systems, Finance, International Business, Management, and Marketing. The
Commerce degree is designed specifically for students who wish to become
professional accountants and more generally for those students seeking a career
in business.

Students enrolled in the Economics degree do not get to choose a major area of
study and it has a much narrower scope.?It is designed to provide students with
an appreciation of various economic issues such as unemployment, resource
allocation, economic growth, income distribution and foreign trade. ANU抯
Bachelor of Economics is widely regarded as one of the very best in Australia.

Both the Economics and Commerce degrees equip students with skills that are
highly desirable to employers.?I would encourage your student to consider a
double degree in economics and commerce, as it broadens the career opportunities
and is only 4 years of full time study.



Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.



Kind regards



Jane McKinnon

Marketing Co-ordinator

Faculty of Economics and Commerce

The Australian National University

T: + 61 2 6125 3893

F: + 61 2 6125 0744

E:?jane.mckinnon@anu.edu.au

 

[loquasagacious]

Um you choose electives in economics, these lead to a major (if you want one, if not you can mix and match).

Both require micro and macro every year and so both build a broad understanding of the economy.

In general commerce is more business centered the focus being on individual players in the economy and various issues to do with them. Whereas economics is more focused on the broader economy and issues associated with it.

Commerce expect to be an accountant work in marketing etc etc. Economics expect to trade in stockmarket, work for govt policy, analyse economic trends for business' etc etc.

Advantage of commerce over economics - you don't have to do Econometrics or Economic history.

 

[neo o]

ANU do like to fuck with undergraduates though.

I turned down a place in ANU law because they stuffed up my accomodation
severely. ( The idiots who look after accomodation there wanted to put me in a hotel room far away from the campus. )

I am doing law at UNSW now.

ANU is the only university that I know of that provides guaranteed accomodation to first years. While this is off topic, the only persons fault for being offered a place off campus is yours - for applying for a college place too late.

 

[noneother]

Advantage of commerce over economics - you don't have to do Econometrics or Economic history.

Did you find EMET helped in understanding microeco? If so did you find this was reflected in your results?

 

[loquasagacious]

EMET did help slightly however reuslts were poor. In retrospect I should have realised that I had no chance in EMET this semester and concentrated on micro. Doing general maths and working alot handicapped me somewhat. I will retake EMET next year and won't be as naive insofar as effort goes.

 

[noneother]

How did you go in micro? I thought I would've done heaps better but got only 68

 

[loquasagacious]

I also did worse than expected.....

 

[Ralph]

can anyone please tell me if i need a bridging course for B Economics/ B Commerce (finance) if i did general math scoring 95 in the examination as it states assumed knowlege is mathamatics. can you pick it up? or not? can you do bridging courses? if anyone can answer me that would be greatly appreciated.

PLEASE ONLY ANSWER IF YOU ARE A 2ND YEAR STUDENT AND ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!

 

[A1]

Advantage of commerce over economics - you don't have to do Econometrics or Economic history.

Ok, so I'm an old prick. When I did commerce about 10 years ago I had to do Economic History. Econometrics was also part of Quantitive Methods (or Quantitative Analysis), I can't remember which one. I definately had to do both, and both were first year subjects where we had NO electives. As the degree progressed, from 2nd to 3rd year, we were able to choose more and more electives, allowing us to specialise in a greater number of areas. Another reason for the greater number of electives was to be able to get accreditation amongst a larger number of bodies i.e CPA, Institute of Managers and Corporate Secretaties, Institue of Auditors (the last two bodies are straight from the top of my head from what I can remember, the names of these bodies may be slighly different). To get accredation certain bodies require students to undergo certain subjects. Your careers advisor and department heads can inform you about this.
The information that I am presenting is based on what was the case 10 years ago, in Victoria and at La Trobe University. Please realise that different universities will slightly adjust their courses as they think is best.
One thing is for sure. If you want to do Commerce, DO ACCOUNTING AT VCE OR HSC. If you do not do Accounting in high school, this subject will haunt you for many, many years.

I hope this helps.

 

[loquasagacious]

Ok commerce at the ANU requires one economic history course however no econometrics - however there is stats....

 

[Venusian]

can anyone please tell me if i need a bridging course for B Economics/ B Commerce (finance) if i did general math scoring 95 in the examination as it states assumed knowlege is mathamatics. can you pick it up? or not? can you do bridging courses? if anyone can answer me that would be greatly appreciated.

PLEASE ONLY ANSWER IF YOU ARE A 2ND YEAR STUDENT AND ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!

Its called ANU college its a one night a week thing and theres three different courses (i think they also do it in a block on the holidays)
I did it after i failed EMET1001, fairly useful however the bastards have timetabled EMET to Semester 2 this year (was Sem 1 last) so i'll probably have forgotten all i learnt.
Theres a link to it on the anu site (too lazy to find it)

 

[husky_c]

The economics degree is fairly prescribed. you have to do a lot of economics courses. They also take courses which should be in other disciplines and have special "economics" versions of them. a combined degree would be the most interesting with both economics and commerce. that shoudl allow you to do some non-economics units.

The sort of maths required is very specific to certain courses. As I remember, first year economics didn't require much beyond hsc 2u maths. second and third years. a good 3u maths mark should help you a lot.

In terms of bridging courses. you are better off doing first year maths at uni as well as economics. in honours economics you used to have to do the equivalent of "first year maths" anyway (specialised economics units).

An economics honours degree is hard work. 600 starting students end up as 10 or so honours students.

 

[Pommy babe]

So if you choose commerce, what would be the best major for say investment banking?

I was thinking about international business

Thanks
Pommy Babe :wave:

 

[Ralph]

hey babes,

Try finance, and accounting. International business is not really related to investment banking, even thought the language would be useful.

I know this, as firstly i am a uni student, and secondly as I used to work in a related industry, stockbroking (back office broker), and now in banking (loan approvals), thats why i am up so early!


Does this help?

 

[mcs]

do both im doing Eco/Commerce majoring in Finance leaves a fair bit of scope while giving a good eco background. Finance though I expect would be best for doing investment banking in the future but someone else probably has a far better answer then I do to the question!

 

[Ralph]

If anyone has any information about these degrees, please post.

----

Overall, the Bachelor of Commerce is more flexible than the Bachelor of
Economics.?As part of the Commerce degree students must select a core/major
area of study, and they choose from majors in:?Accounting, Business Information
Systems, Finance, International Business, Management, and Marketing. The
Commerce degree is designed specifically for students who wish to become
professional accountants and more generally for those students seeking a career
in business.

Students enrolled in the Economics degree do not get to choose a major area of
study and it has a much narrower scope.?It is designed to provide students with
an appreciation of various economic issues such as unemployment, resource
allocation, economic growth, income distribution and foreign trade. ANU抯
Bachelor of Economics is widely regarded as one of the very best in Australia.

Both the Economics and Commerce degrees equip students with skills that are
highly desirable to employers.?I would encourage your student to consider a
double degree in economics and commerce, as it broadens the career opportunities
and is only 4 years of full time study.



Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.



Kind regards



Jane McKinnon

Marketing Co-ordinator

Faculty of Economics and Commerce

The Australian National University

T: + 61 2 6125 3893

F: + 61 2 6125 0744

E:?jane.mckinnon@anu.edu.au

Good place for marketing your business aye?

 

[Pommy babe]

hey babes,

Try finance, and accounting. International business is not really related to investment banking, even thought the language would be useful.

I know this, as firstly i am a uni student, and secondly as I used to work in a related industry, stockbroking (back office broker), and now in banking (loan approvals), thats why i am up so early!


Does this help?

Hi yeah it did help thanks i'll do commerce with a major in accounting /finance and take up a language seeing as i already speak some spanish. does that sound better?

"Babes"

 

[Ralph]

Hey,

Ya that sounds very good, but remember to study what you want to study, so you have no regrets later!

A language is always good, if your heart is set on spanish, do spanish, but in this day and age if you can, (i don't know how good you are with languages as it is hard), learn mandarin, there are countless stories i hear at my firm of graduates with this language, doubling there pay packets by working with mandarin speaking clients.

Also note in your degree, you have room for 2 majors plus almost a a third major, use this for eg a language like spanish (although i recommend mandarin), or something your interested in that can further you.


And don't be scared to look on seek every second day! so you can find a job in investment banking FT/PT/casual, as then you'll be in your own class of graduates. (just an idea, one mate of mine did this in first year a macquarie bank, but he did uni part time, (but he also hated every minute at macquarie bank too ).

Any more questions, don't hesitate to ask.

 

[bringbackshred]

OK, so I'm doing my HSC this year and I dearly want to study economics at ANU.

I have 3 questions:

1. I'm doing General Maths. I will more than likely get a very high Band 6 in the subject (i.e. over 95) and I am more than capable of doing 2 unit maths, i just don't want to. Would I need a bridging course or anything of the like to get acceptance to Eco at ANU?

2. My school didn't offer Economics for the HSC. How much would this affect me in terms of Uni study if I did get accepted?

3. At Newcastle Uni, they offer politics electives with Economics. Does the same apply to ANU?

Cheers guys. Keep it real.

 

[ikkyu33]

2. not much, though those who did econs in highschool would be mostly revising in first year econs.
3. i think you get 2 courses from outside the faculty as an elective, and politics goes under Arts, so I guess you can take some pols