Global Human Overpopulation. (1 Viewer)

[banco55]

most western countries are on the decline.

its the arab world and the scummy parts of africa that are treproducing at arapid rate.

The problem is the arabs and the africans seem to have no idea how to produce economic growth (apart from resource led growth) so we are going to have a lot of unemployed, military age men.

 

[ur_inner_child]

if china and india are sweating their asses off trying to adopt one child policies, and australian are having the time of their lives screwing and making babies, dont you think its counter acting the effort of the one child policy? every country in the world has to contribute to reducing population, if overpopulation is a problem.

I don't think Australia gives a damn about overpopulation. Baby bonus? What's that for?

To an extent its a country by country thing. But in theory, I agree. Just not necessarily in practice.

 

[BlackDragon]

Eventually there will be another pandemic or world war and enough people will be wiped out to bring the population back down a little bit.

If not we would have to nuke China and India since its mainly their fault because between them they make up 1/3 of the worlds population.

i'd rather nuke america thankyou very much. it would solve global warming too! well for a while..

therefore the solution is: DESTROY ALL AMERICANS.

 

[BlackDragon]

The problem is the arabs and the africans seem to have no idea how to produce economic growth (apart from resource led growth) so we are going to have a lot of unemployed, military age men.

they have no inherent ability to create economic development or growth. - in terms of the instability of their institutions, low natural resources, dependance on aid etc. etc. etc. its not that they don't know how.

 

[banco55]

they have no inherent ability to create economic development or growth. - in terms of the instability of their institutions, low natural resources, dependance on aid etc. etc. etc. its not that they don't know how.

Actually one of the few things Africa and the arab world have going for them are lots of natural resources. I think they really don't know how to generate economic growth. To give one example the Indians in Uganda basically controlled the whole economy before they got kicked out by Idi Amin. They made up a very small percentage of Uganda's population. They were far more sucessful than the black africans because they knew how to create ecnomic growth.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Actually one of the few things Africa and the arab world have going for them are lots of natural resources. I think they really don't know how to generate economic growth.

Same could be said for Australia, except we have banks

 

[iamsickofyear12]

every country in the world has to contribute to reducing population, if overpopulation is a problem.

It may be a global problem but every country shouldn't have to contribute. The individual countries that are the main reason for the problem should be the only ones forced to change.

 

[banco55]

Same could be said for Australia, except we have banks

Rich Australians: $31600 gdp per capita

Poor incompetent arabs: $3,900 gdp per capita egypt

 

[Not-That-Bright]

How are you trying to counter my point? So far all I see is failure on your behalf.

 

[ElendilPeredhil]

This came up in the Abortion thread and deserves a thread of it's own.

What should be done to solve overpopulation?
Can it be solved at this stage, or it it too late to do anything about it?
Does the scale of overpopulation suggest that compulsary measures should be taken?

Some Links:
World Population Awareness
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
The Church of Euthanasia
Overpopulation.com

One child policies enforced in overpopulated parts of asia, africa and the middle east.

Compluslory sterlisation for 60% of the population of severely overpopulated areas. Get Catholicism out of Africa.

It's not too late, well, not for everyone, but sustainable levels have to be found.

 

[BlackDragon]

End religion. That way contraception wouldnt be seen as a sin. THen it might be used more.

the world and namely, america, is too full of conservative, racist idiots for that to ever happen. i don't see how contraception is a sin either? but yeah.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

Yeah let's see

India: 17% of world population, 1.58% Catholic
China: 20% of world population, 0.75% Catholic
Indonesia: 3.5% of world population, 3.05% Catholic

On the other hand, if we look at highest fertility rates in the world:

Niger: Fertility rate 7.46, Catholics 0.1%
Mali: Fertility rate 7.42, Catholics 1.54%
Somalia: Fertility rate 6.76, Catholics n/a

Okay, well maybe if we look at the most Catholic nations...

Brazil - most catholics in the world at 136 million, fertility rate 1.91 (below replacement)
Portugal - highest percentage of catholics outside the Vatican at 94%, fertility rate 1.47 (dangerously low)

Get a new scapegoat guys.

 

[BlackDragon]

yeah but the power of american conservative, white, catholic institutions and churchs is scary and wide spreading.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

You know the American crazies are all fundamentalist evangelical protestants right?

 

[BlackDragon]

well that's what i meant. you know, mega conservative religious instutions. i have no idea about the different branches of christianity.

 

[lengy]

Well AIDS is solving Africa's overpopulation problem.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

We in the affluent world will have to accept substantial reductions in our standard of living to allow space for the poor, mainly in Africa, to improve their nutrition and health status.

I can't buy into this sort of thinking because it ignores the more practical and human nature-compliant option of simply killing them so we have the resources for ourselves.

 

[_dhj_]

I can't buy into this sort of thinking because it ignores the more practical and human nature-compliant option of simply killing them so we have the resources for ourselves.

We can also kill off all those obese people in the first world since they consume the most food and are the most useless.

 

[Captain Gh3y]

No seriously this idiot wants to sterilise the people of countries whose populations are already falling (below replacement fertility rates) while leaving unchecked the population growth of the developing world (more than tripling with each generation in parts of Africa). Also the wealthiest nations are those that produce the most goods and provide stability to the rest of the world. His idea is to turn the entire world into some sort of utopia on par with present day sub-saharan Africa, or better still get rid of people altogether.

In my earlier post I wasn't advocating genocide so much as pointing out that people will naturally start fighting each other for resources long before the species will collectively get together and decide to do away with affluence and start sharing everything equally and sterilising themselves. In fact we've been doing it since day one.

The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.

Really shows that some people who won't believe in God will believe in anything. The end goal of all this so-called 'progressive' or 'environmentalist' thought: either there isn't a God and people need to be killed off in the millions to protect the sacred Mother Gaia, in the case of these guys; or there isn't a God and people need to be killed off in the millions for the State, in the case of communist dictators. You can replace God with the Mother Earth of green religion or a dictator's Personality Cult, the result is the same, the ideology is the same. Incidentally Iran's Ahmadinejad is also currently trying to bring about the reappearance of the '12th Imam' which will supposedly eliminate two thirds of the world's population. See any patterns here?

It's not just the nutjobs either, the green religion is currently responsible for things like state governments not doing anything to help with water shortages because they could lose Green preferences, or unnecessary thousands of hectares of forest being destroyed by bushfire because the Greens would not allow proper management techniques to be used (also emitting much more carbon than humans can manage).

 

[PoliticalExile]

Birth Control instead of Bombs.

It's far cheaper and a lot more fun.