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Hockey mum wants co-ed locker room
Last updated Jul 12 2005 01:57 PM PDT
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A B.C. mother is demanding that her 14-year-old daughter be allowed to change in the same locker room as the boys on her co-ed hockey team, and has taken the issue to the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal.

Jane Emlyn and her daughter Jewel
Minor hockey league policy is B.C. dictates that there be separate dressing room for boys and girls once they turn 11.

But Jane Emlyn and her daughter Jewel, who live in the north Okanagan community of Lumby, says that's discrimination.

"It's their right to be in the change room. It's not a privilege, And I feel that if they can play hockey then they should be exposed to all the opportunities that minor hockey players have," says Jane Emlyn.

Jewel plays defence for the Lumby Stars. The team is co-ed, but most of the players are teenage boys.

She is only allowed in the male change room 15 minutes before game time. She says she feels like a "second-class player" because of that restriction.

"People shouldn't be making a big deal whether they're changing in a different dressing room, changing in the same dressing room. We should all just be able to play hockey and have fun, you know in the same dressing room, right?"

The Emlyns say the solution is shared change rooms with a dress code. And that when it comes time to shower, they say the minority gender would have to leave the room.

Minor hockey coach Bob McCuaig coached a Lower Mainland team of 14 to 16 year olds last season – a team that included one girl.

He says separate change rooms have nothing to do with discrimination, and everything to do with avoiding the possibility of harassment.

"In order to have a safe environment for everybody, where they are not going to feel threatened I would rather have a girl feel a little bit left out than threatened by, 'I have to change in the room with guys.'"

A decision by the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal is expected next week

Hockey mum wants co-ed locker room
Last updated Jul 12 2005 01:57 PM PDT
CBC News
A B.C. mother is demanding that her 14-year-old daughter be allowed to change in the same locker room as the boys on her co-ed hockey team, and has taken the issue to the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal.

Jane Emlyn and her daughter Jewel
Minor hockey league policy is B.C. dictates that there be separate dressing room for boys and girls once they turn 11.

But Jane Emlyn and her daughter Jewel, who live in the north Okanagan community of Lumby, says that's discrimination.

"It's their right to be in the change room. It's not a privilege, And I feel that if they can play hockey then they should be exposed to all the opportunities that minor hockey players have," says Jane Emlyn.

Jewel plays defence for the Lumby Stars. The team is co-ed, but most of the players are teenage boys.

She is only allowed in the male change room 15 minutes before game time. She says she feels like a "second-class player" because of that restriction.

"People shouldn't be making a big deal whether they're changing in a different dressing room, changing in the same dressing room. We should all just be able to play hockey and have fun, you know in the same dressing room, right?"

The Emlyns say the solution is shared change rooms with a dress code. And that when it comes time to shower, they say the minority gender would have to leave the room.

Minor hockey coach Bob McCuaig coached a Lower Mainland team of 14 to 16 year olds last season – a team that included one girl.

He says separate change rooms have nothing to do with discrimination, and everything to do with avoiding the possibility of harassment.

"In order to have a safe environment for everybody, where they are not going to feel threatened I would rather have a girl feel a little bit left out than threatened by, 'I have to change in the room with guys.'"

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As a hockey player I would say that it would be inappropropriate and counter-productive to have a girl changing in the same changeroom. Especially given the age of those inviolved. Were the children younger they would not notice, were they older (eg 18/20+) then they would have the maturity to deal with it. As teenagers they are developing etc etc and co-ed changerooms have the potential for harrasment and debasement of varying kinds.

That the parent/child believes that showers should be taken with only one gender in the room recognises this fact. How great to teenagers is the difference to standing around in underwear and showering naked. I argue that if co-ed showers are an issue (and at that age they are) then co-ed changing is an issue.
 

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well i totally disagree with it
im not sure how the girls and guys will feel...like will they be comfortable sharing a changeroom ?
and if its only the one girl....that would be weird
all depends on the situation for them neways
but i think its silly..
 

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He says separate change rooms have nothing to do with discrimination, and everything to do with avoiding the possibility of harassment.
that about sums it up.
 

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What the hell? That rule is there because it is inappropriate at that age to be sharing locker rooms. This is the first time i've seen someone argue against a rule for what isn't right.
 

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what the...? having guys and girls changing in the same room is just weird and inappropriate. Sure, ok, if they were adults, as in over 18, then thats probably alright as long as they feel comfortable...but minors? I dont think so. the point of having male and female changerooms is to protect peoples right to privacy. the fact that the girl in that team is in the minority doesnt change the fact that she should be changing in a separate room.
 

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i think the argument is the girls get left out of pre-game excitement and such, and prepping from coaches

a compromise would be two have two seperate changes rooms, but linked by a comunal area
 

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townie said:
i think the argument is the girls get left out of pre-game excitement and such, and prepping from coaches

a compromise would be two have two seperate changes rooms, but linked by a comunal area
what they build a special change room for the one girl?
 

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They have separate portaloos for female construction workers...
 

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A shared dressing room may be beneficial for team 'bonding' and unity. I believe the Bulldogs have had similar experiences when isolated and left to a single female.
 

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back in high school, some people use to dack people while they were changing. god knows what would happen to the girl. bukkake or something
 

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^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:
what the...? having guys and girls changing in the same room is just weird and inappropriate. Sure, ok, if they were adults, as in over 18, then thats probably alright as long as they feel comfortable...but minors? I dont think so. the point of having male and female changerooms is to protect peoples right to privacy. the fact that the girl in that team is in the minority doesnt change the fact that she should be changing in a separate room.
Wtf is this about over/under 18?, I've never seen a shared co-ed change/shower room in Australia period (brothels and Big Brother house exempted). :p
 

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It is much more common for older people to change together and this is ok as they have a higher level of maturity. Emergency services for instance often change together (more so fire and ambulance than police, basically the emergency response teams).

I'm more interested in whats wiyth changerooms for hockey where-ever I've played (international hockey centre in Sydney and the territory centre in the ACT the change rooms consist of essentially a roofed area with at most three walls and a low wall facing the field.
 

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: you're a pervert.
i was just posting up a funny new article....get a life gronk boy....go read harry potter....
 

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I miss hockey, i've gotten so unfit since I quit. and the whole bashing of balls thing really helped with my anger issues you know?
Anyways, I would never have wanted to change in the same room as the boys (hot as most of them were) but we never really changed at hockey anyways... it was more like take off jacket, fix hair and put on shinpads then any removing of clothing that would show stuff... and most of us waited untill we got home to shower unless we were going out right after.
If you're not actually stripping, I have no issues with it, but the rule is there to protect the girls from harrassment, which knowing teenage boys could become an issue...
 

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