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nimrod_dookie

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I am experiencing difficulty getting an appropriate graph when entering the following function into my Texas Instruments TI-83 plus calculator:

y=(5cosx(5sinx+sq.root(25sin^2(x)+39.2)) /9.8

*where x=angle pheta

If anyone could suggest the best combination to enter this function in order to graph it and describe the graph they obtain, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou.
 

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I put this into my computer and thats what turned up

 

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nimrod_dookie said:
y=(5cosx(5sinx+sq.root(25sin^2(x)+39.2)) /9.8
I cannot interperate that accurately because you have opened more brackets than you have closed.
 

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Sorry. I know it looks dodgy.

Here is the function:

R=5cosx(5sinx+(25sin^2x+39.2) )all divided by 9.8
 

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Thanks Sober. :)


I've also got to use the formula to investigate the angles which produce the maximum range as the height of projection increases. I've done that for varying angles and obviously the launch angle decreases as the height of projection increases. However, the assignment asks whether as the height approachs infinity, if there is a limiting value for the angle which produces maximum range.

I have been unable to see this through trial and error and my teacher hasn't gone through this explicitly. If anyone can provide further assistance it would be greatly appreciated :).
 

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I can see where the formula comes from (and I'm assuming that the initial velocity was 5, as that seemed to work to get the form of equation you've shown us). I come up with an equation identical to yours, except the 39.2 is replaced by 2g(h-y) where g is acc due to grav, h is initial launch height, and y is height of the object at some time...

x = (5 cos{@}) (5 sin{@} + {25 (sin{@})^2 + 2g(h-y)}) / 9.8

This means that for yours to work, the y value is precisely 2 units less than the original height. This is perfectly reasonable. If we want to turn this 'x' into range of the projectile, R, we must look for the case when y=0, so this becomes:

R = (5 cos{@}) (5 sin{@} + {25 (sin{@})^2 + 2gh}) / 9.8

Now we have this, we can see when we graph it as x(@) vs @ that increasing 'h' merely increases the amplitude of the function and moves it slightly towards the left. If we look at the maximum points of the graph, (best to use some sort of graphing/math s/w, I used mathematica) by differentiating wrt @, different values of h show different max values. I tested out h=0,10,20,30,40,50,100; and each time the max point moved to the left a bit.
As far as I can tell, as the height increases, the range increases, regardless of the angle; however, as the height increases, the angle for the maximum range seems to tend towards 0, which is rediculous...
But here's a graph of its derivative with h=0 (right-most),10, 50, 100, 200 (left-most). This clearly shows that the extreme point approaches 0 as R increases.


Hope this helps... tho it may not be right coz you wouldn't expect that if you could throw the ball an infinite distance straight up, it would go an infinite distance in any other direction in the horizontal plane...

Any thoughts, fellow numeromaniacs?
 

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