Help me out. (1 Viewer)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
School: Merewether High (selective)

Subject Exam mark Exam rank Assessment rank (final)
Chemistry 49% 46/52 38/52
English(adv) 80% 18/157 35/157
Ext 1 Eng. 40/50 15/65 15/65
Ext 2 Eng. N/A N/A 11/26
Maths(adv) 92 11/84 12/84
Ext 1 Maths 38/50 59/103 49/103
German 92 1/6 1/6
3u German 40/50 2/2 1/2 (equal first)

It's probably safe to assume chemistry won't count. :)

Cheers, guys!
 

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
hahaha, get real guys!

selective school.. we're looking ~95 if anything.
 

Tommy_Lamp

Coco
Joined
Jun 9, 2004
Messages
1,716
Location
Northern Beaches
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2004
Why ask if you have your own estimate that you think will happen no matter what?
If you think thats what your gonna get then good for you, but dont peddle your shit around here.

Thankyou
:)
 

Tommy_Lamp

Coco
Joined
Jun 9, 2004
Messages
1,716
Location
Northern Beaches
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2004
So what?
That gives him an excuse to act like a moron?
If he was smart he would say thanks for estimations and if hes not happy go somewhere else and get more estimations
 

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
Tommy_Lamp said:
So what?
That gives him an excuse to act like a moron?
If he was smart he would say thanks for estimations and if hes not happy go somewhere else and get more estimations

No, if I was smart I'd tell the newbs who have no idea of giving UAI estimates out to fuck off! That's basically what I'm doing. :)

Lemme break it down for you a bit.

Ext. 1 + Ext. 2 english + English Advance - looking at a mark of ~80, with the scaling in english, it'll correspond to a UAI aggregate of around 95 UAI if she had 10units worth of english at those marks.

Maths is very good, easily scaled marks corresponding to an aggregate of 95 UAI.

2u German is also very good, easily scaled marks corresponding to an aggregate of 95 UAI.

Ext. 1 maths and 3u German, good scaling subjects... probably not being overly optimistic or anything by saying marks will correspond to an aggregate of around 95 UAI.

That's 10 units close to 95 UAI aggregate, prediction is therefore ~95, +/-2...



How did you arrive at the ~85, Tommy? :)
 

Survivor39

Premium Member
Joined
May 23, 2003
Messages
4,467
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2003
Her ranks indicate her ability in a mediocre selective school compared to other selective schools. The lack of competition in German and German extension 1 gave little or no indication of how this student will fair against state-wide candidates. An okay rank in Maths extension 1 and 2 U maths. Lack of information regarding English Extension 2 also contributed my estimation.

If you feel that my estimation of around 85 is too low, I'm sorry. but from what I can deduce based on what you gave led me to believe she might get a UAI of 85, as the competition becomes tougher every year and higher aggregate is required for the same UAI from previous years.
 

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
Bud,

mediocre? It's not a selective school based in Sydney, which is probably why you haven't heard of it. In 2002, it was ranked 21st or something. 2003 was a bad year, with it being ranked somewhere between 30-50 off the top of my head.

For 2u english, I'll add that the school marks from 0-20, whereas in the HSC they mark from 10-20 for essays, so her mark of 80 is easily an 85-90.. there's about 10 people coming first, second and third as well, so the relative difference isn't so great. Good rank in ext. english, the top few students will be getting 48+/50, then drop down for the rest of the class, she's easily looking at a 40/50 IMO. As for 4u, I can't provide much either as the marking scheme was fucked-up since it looked at journals and shit, all of which had nothing to do with her actual story. I don't think high 30s, low 40s is so far fetched though.. I know of people who came near the bottom in previous years and got ~35.

re: German, her mark of 92 in 2u would support her rank of 1st don't you think? 3u German is fair enough, but I'm assuming a good 2u German student will still do okay in 3u German, at least get 80. They are both RAW marks.

an OKAY ranking in 2u maths? It's quite good, the top few students are getting 117+/120, she'll get 90+ no worries in the HSC. 3u is nothing to write home about, but it includes the 4u students as well, high 30s to low 40s not so far fetched when you consider her overall assessment rank is 10 places higher than her exam rank, so her moderated assessment mark will likely be 40+ :)
 

Tommy_Lamp

Coco
Joined
Jun 9, 2004
Messages
1,716
Location
Northern Beaches
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2004
cyph said:
In 2002, it was ranked 21st or something. 2003 was a bad year, with it being ranked somewhere between 30-50 off the top of my head.
sorry, i should have read your mind and found that out.

Cyph, in the end, no prediction is perfect, if you want a perfect prediction, use SAM or JUAIseek, they are much more accurate. We are just offering a friendly free service to people who request it. If you are unhappy and dont agree with out predictions, thats your problem.

Thankyou :)
 

hipsta_jess

Up the mighty red V
Joined
May 30, 2003
Messages
5,981
Gender
Female
HSC
N/A
guys, its really not worth fighting over.
cyph asked for a prediction
tommy provided prediction
cyph didnt like prediction
we all move on.
 

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
Tommy_Lamp said:
sorry, i should have read your mind and found that out.

Cyph, in the end, no prediction is perfect, if you want a perfect prediction, use SAM or JUAIseek, they are much more accurate. We are just offering a friendly free service to people who request it. If you are unhappy and dont agree with out predictions, thats your problem.

Thankyou :)

lmao, what the fuck?!

Dude, you don't know jack shit about providing UAI predictions... You don't even understand the concept of scaling!

You're providing random numbers, which any fuckwit can do. Survivor39 provided his reasons, which seem fair enough and I rebutted them... You can't provide any reasoning because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about!

I've provided fairly accurate UAI predictions in the past, I estimated people's UAIs to be within 0.05 without a calculator! I've guessed plenty of others to +/-2-3 marks, at least within a range of 5 most times without a calculator as well.

Can't wait for UAIs to come out so I can come and post a UAI around ~95.

I got 87.05 at a public school, non-selective... I didn't do as much work as my sister and I'm nowhere near intelligent as her. Odds say that she will get 90+ at the very least from that alone don't you think? My ranks were as follows:

Maths, 14/43
3u maths, 12/15
physics, 7/14
SDD, 2/14
std. english, 9/73
business, =11/35
IPT, 9/40
 
Last edited:

Cyph

espresso me up!
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
1,611
Location
Newcastle
Gender
Male
HSC
2002
A few quotes which prove you don't know what you're talking about, Tommy.

Tommy_Lamp said:
five subjects at 85 gives you low 90's, in my case 93
obviously this varies from subject to subject but me thinks not by much
How about scaling, or you not heard of scaling?

Tommy_Lamp said:
If your ranked highly your immune to scaling down from your class' performances
lol.. Your class's performance doesn't effect scaling. Scaling is determined by the quality of the course canditature, overall - how they perform in that subject and other subjects (so class mates will help to determine the scaling, but in most subjects you won't notice the effects of one bad class on the scaling of a subject unless you're doing Czech or something with a very small canditature).

Now... tell me why should your UAI predictions hold any merit?
 
Last edited:

fwuxed

Channeling Ki
Joined
Aug 15, 2003
Messages
202
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2004
how bout my marks? I get around 45% for everything in sefton (so i'm kinda near the bottom of the class), but i get 90+ for every subject in the HSC. What UAI would that give me?
 

Ragerunner

Your friendly HSC guide
Joined
Apr 12, 2003
Messages
5,472
Location
UNSW
Gender
Male
HSC
2003
My estimate would be the 94-96ish.

It is reasons like this I refrain from posting UAI predictions at this present time. It is simply impossible to be of any accuracy unless the marks attain at school reflect HSC exam performance. Which usually isn't the case.

My suggestion would be NOT to worry at the moment. It's only 3 weeks left till the HSC, just study and after you finish ALL your exams, then you provide us with an estimate of your HSC performance.

Right now, it can only do you bad asking for predictions.

In either case, thread closed for its inappropriate flaming.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top