how much study do you intend to do over the summer (1 Viewer)

[liamkk112]

i mean technically its just subjective. personally i work everyday all day and while i DO get my toll for that - eg get seriously ill or dizzy (i still study despite it lmao), my motivation just keeps me going cos its the final run. its a plain stupid idea to sit around all holidays - its just indicative that one isn't mature enough to understand the importance of studying in this time of ur life, and whether it 'matters' or not, its developing discipline. the past is the past too, if i was to use my previous experiences (utter shit) of year 11, i would be more depressed then i was from then for multiplex reasons and not just study. its a lesson of strength rather than something to mourn over and lay around while ur ranks and chances of becoming a future prestige falls away beneath ur eyes. ig thats my own opinion tho - im rough on myself and dont really deal with crap so eh
TLDR - imo if u want it u get it. Excuses get trampled, and the journey the final steps that u spent 13 years to proceed to are made. consequences are natrual and deal with it cos its natrually the huamn experince. use ur past experinces and the pain of them to fuel you with more motivation as to y u wanna get up and study. everyone suffers ur not alone - ive had much more than my fair share too but all i do is use that pain and let it burn into motivation. trust me it works.

pls take care of yourself. its okay to study all day but if you're getting sick or dizzy, and the school year hasn't even started, you're doing too much.

1. how can you expect yourself to work effectively if you're feeling sick or dizzy? you're just setting yourself up to burn out later and get more sick, which not only isn't worth sacrificing your health for a grade but is inefficient at best. take breaks, and if you're feeling sick, take a break and go outside or watch movies or whatever. don't forget that the large majority of people work 5 days a week and take 2 days off and only work 8-10 hours a day, yes as a student you obviously have to study on the weekends but don't forget to pace and take care of yourself

2. there is at some point, a dropoff in the maximum amount of effective study you can do in a day. again studying isn't the same as working, you're meant to be learning and improving, this takes time and cannot be rushed. towards exam periods, i do study more than during the term (and obviously most people do as well), however this is different as you're not getting ahead and you're consolidating knowledge. as someone who did a 9-5 shift of studying for the hsc exams, that was already a lot, and i always designated the last 2-3 hours to repetitive memorisation like english quotes or notes because after a good 6 hours of doing past papers, you've basically used up all of your thinking power for the day. obviously results vary based on the person, but there is some point at which the effectiveness of what you're doing drops off and you're wasting time, that should be spent recovering and taking a break for a while. i don't know anyone with a 12 hour threshold for this, but given that you're not feeling well the threshold is likely lower for you, meaning that your time is not even effective, and yet is hurting your health

3. in my experience, i have never met anyone at uni or at high school that studies 12 hours a day, at least every single day without fail. yes sometimes you have to lock in and study a lot, or finish off an assignment, maybe this takes the whole day. but nonstop, for months on end, is unheatlhy and unsustainable. simply put, this is bad for you, and there are more effective ways to study. though there may be people that do this, in my opinion, this is not worth the sacrifice of your health, obviously it's your decision at the end of the day but yeah

4. prestige is not worth it. this is the only subjective point i'm going to make, but it just isn't imo. go for a good atar, i'm not trying to say you shouldn't do that but think about why you want that. is it for a scholarship, is it for a particular course, or is it just because your parents want you to get a 99.95? personally, i wanted to get a good atar because i wanted to push myself to achieve, and to aim for a scholarship so i wouldn't have to worry about working during university; on top of this it would give me the most choice in courses/universities and my parents would also be happy that i was working towards a future and didn't drop out or do something dumb that wouldn't set me up for the future. but, there are plenty of people who kill themselves with studying to get into a top selective school, get a good atar, crunch ucat, get into med school and then hate it and drop out in the first year or keep killing themselves and stay in the program even though they hate it. the thing is, the prestige of a good atar, or getting into med/law/etc with no real plan or passion, is just a shortcut to further issues later down the road. almost no one cares about your atar the moment it becomes irrelevant, it's a great achievement but it isn't worth killing yourself for something that everyone forgets about until the next year when the next 99.95 comes around. on top of that, it just becomes a vicious cycle; you get out of med school, that's 5 years, then everyone forgets about being an intern for 3 years, then years of specialisation. this work is perfectly fine if you have a genuine commitment to med, and you might have this, but for a lot of people they are already fedup in their first year and they have years of pain ahead. don't do something for the title, do it because you care about it, because at the end of the day the title dies, but your impact and passion doesn't

studying in the holidays is okay and can be very helpful (especially for tough subjects with a lot of content - it can be good to familiarise yourself before the term starts), but there's nothing wrong with taking a break before probably one of the most stressful years of your life if you're trying to aim high. it is called the holidays for a reason, and many people take the opportunity to relax and refresh, there is nothing wrong with this and like iloveeggs said a lot of people who got good results didn't do anything over the holidays, it can be very positive to take a step back before your main priority becomes studying again. i would strongly advise to cut back your hours, especially given the effect on your health. study over the holidays if you want to, but even 6 hours instead of 12 is a lot and truthfully, especially at a high school level where you're learning things for the first time, the majority of people won't attain mastery of a subject over a few weeks (i find this to be different at uni since classes are run at a faster pace, but this is only because you already have a baseline level of knowledge). just take care of yourself

 

[svad]

bro how many times r u gonna subtly mention ur 12 hour study routine

Honestly if i could study for 12 hours a day i would boast about it too

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

pls take care of yourself. its okay to study all day but if you're getting sick or dizzy, and the school year hasn't even started, you're doing too much.

1. how can you expect yourself to work effectively if you're feeling sick or dizzy? you're just setting yourself up to burn out later and get more sick, which not only isn't worth sacrificing your health for a grade but is inefficient at best. take breaks, and if you're feeling sick, take a break and go outside or watch movies or whatever. don't forget that the large majority of people work 5 days a week and take 2 days off and only work 8-10 hours a day, yes as a student you obviously have to study on the weekends but don't forget to pace and take care of yourself

2. there is at some point, a dropoff in the maximum amount of effective study you can do in a day. again studying isn't the same as working, you're meant to be learning and improving, this takes time and cannot be rushed. towards exam periods, i do study more than during the term (and obviously most people do as well), however this is different as you're not getting ahead and you're consolidating knowledge. as someone who did a 9-5 shift of studying for the hsc exams, that was already a lot, and i always designated the last 2-3 hours to repetitive memorisation like english quotes or notes because after a good 6 hours of doing past papers, you've basically used up all of your thinking power for the day. obviously results vary based on the person, but there is some point at which the effectiveness of what you're doing drops off and you're wasting time, that should be spent recovering and taking a break for a while. i don't know anyone with a 12 hour threshold for this, but given that you're not feeling well the threshold is likely lower for you, meaning that your time is not even effective, and yet is hurting your health

3. in my experience, i have never met anyone at uni or at high school that studies 12 hours a day, at least every single day without fail. yes sometimes you have to lock in and study a lot, or finish off an assignment, maybe this takes the whole day. but nonstop, for months on end, is unheatlhy and unsustainable. simply put, this is bad for you, and there are more effective ways to study. though there may be people that do this, in my opinion, this is not worth the sacrifice of your health, obviously it's your decision at the end of the day but yeah

4. prestige is not worth it. this is the only subjective point i'm going to make, but it just isn't imo. go for a good atar, i'm not trying to say you shouldn't do that but think about why you want that. is it for a scholarship, is it for a particular course, or is it just because your parents want you to get a 99.95? personally, i wanted to get a good atar because i wanted to push myself to achieve, and to aim for a scholarship so i wouldn't have to worry about working during university; on top of this it would give me the most choice in courses/universities and my parents would also be happy that i was working towards a future and didn't drop out or do something dumb that wouldn't set me up for the future. but, there are plenty of people who kill themselves with studying to get into a top selective school, get a good atar, crunch ucat, get into med school and then hate it and drop out in the first year or keep killing themselves and stay in the program even though they hate it. the thing is, the prestige of a good atar, or getting into med/law/etc with no real plan or passion, is just a shortcut to further issues later down the road. almost no one cares about your atar the moment it becomes irrelevant, it's a great achievement but it isn't worth killing yourself for something that everyone forgets about until the next year when the next 99.95 comes around. on top of that, it just becomes a vicious cycle; you get out of med school, that's 5 years, then everyone forgets about being an intern for 3 years, then years of specialisation. this work is perfectly fine if you have a genuine commitment to med, and you might have this, but for a lot of people they are already fedup in their first year and they have years of pain ahead. don't do something for the title, do it because you care about it, because at the end of the day the title dies, but your impact and passion doesn't

studying in the holidays is okay and can be very helpful (especially for tough subjects with a lot of content - it can be good to familiarise yourself before the term starts), but there's nothing wrong with taking a break before probably one of the most stressful years of your life if you're trying to aim high. it is called the holidays for a reason, and many people take the opportunity to relax and refresh, there is nothing wrong with this and like iloveeggs said a lot of people who got good results didn't do anything over the holidays, it can be very positive to take a step back before your main priority becomes studying again. i would strongly advise to cut back your hours, especially given the effect on your health. study over the holidays if you want to, but even 6 hours instead of 12 is a lot and truthfully, especially at a high school level where you're learning things for the first time, the majority of people won't attain mastery of a subject over a few weeks (i find this to be different at uni since classes are run at a faster pace, but this is only because you already have a baseline level of knowledge). just take care of yourself

yeah thats all so true. ig ive just got to pull off a little - ironically its med too that im planning to do so yeah...life gonna look a little gloomy if i dont grow up

 

[quarkkkk]

wdym calm down baby no one's not calm....

I was replying to C master who deleted his message telling me to shut up.

Yeah what ur saying makes senses, but again as I stated like 10x in my advice, its subjective – therefore whilst someone may have dealt with bs like me one may not and thus my point stands

mate you're on a thread asking for advice and you're indirectly endorsing studying until getting ill. if u don't understand why that's problematic then u need help. i don't care that you're studying that much or whatever, but recommending this to others is potentially harmful.
also let's be real if u were studying 12 hours a day u wouldn't be posting on bos as often as u are now

 

[v.tex]

Bruh

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

I was replying to C master who deleted his message telling me to shut up.



mate you're on a thread asking for advice and you're indirectly endorsing studying until getting ill. if u don't understand why that's problematic then u need help. i don't care that you're studying that much or whatever, but recommending this to others is potentially harmful.
also let's be real if u were studying 12 hours a day u wouldn't be posting on bos as often as u are now

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im 99.9% sure that teenage children have the ability to decide what is wrong and what is right bbg......................

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

also let's be real if u were studying 12 hours a day u wouldn't be posting on bos as often as u are now

funny.....Not. Guess thats my cue to cut 5 min breaks out now *sigh*

 

[v.tex]

ragebait

 

[iloveeggs]

not sure why everyones gettng pissed off lmao, and you all need to shut it about my scheule fgs study is study not some trophy i hold up and "allude" to. If ur not happy open a word doc and make one easy as that…

Yeah what ur saying makes senses, but again as I stated like 10x in my advice, its subjective – therefore whilst someone may have dealt with bs like me one may not and thus my point stands

also pls don’t quote me its very annoying.

Im disciplined all over cos that’s just how I am – everything is timed everything is done at its right time. It sucks I admit and its mundane, but theres a time and place for rest and equally so for fun. Lesisure imo is only limited as of now because im not willing to fail and since the road here has been bs I will live bs for another 6 months if that means I can get a good mark and prove to myself that shit happens yet I won. Also Im an excellent cook lol, should drive after my first assessment period, don’t need to make friends I have enough, jobs for after hsc when im busy partying since id be done (and I will burn my schedule), and Im uninterested in romance till uni cos ive dealt with a selfish piece of work who used me then threw me away and she’s pretty much turned me off from the sight of love for a while..talk about bs experiences…

Kind of guess it just comes to the point (again) that since this is a subjective advice its either either. Ur right and im also right. I admit im a bit over the top but im ok with that if that means I get to show myself that I made it despite the mishaps – and it will all end in like 6 months so if that means that im sick for a few days…immature choice but ill deal with it. What happens when im 20 or something idek, def ill be disclipned but to this point? Prob not.

when did i get pissed off, i'm just concerned for you like everyone else. do you not recall us talking like outside of bos like in a friendly way

sorry if it annoys you that i'm quoting you but i don't want you to make the argument that you never said what you said. im also sorry things have sucked for you in the past and i'm glad you're doing fine but my point still stands that it's dysfuntional.

the fact that your schedule unnecessary for high school isn't necessarily subjective because it's making you ill clearly and would make the average person ill (you seem to agree that it's extra) but i'd say unlike you most ppl care abt being healthy enough to experience and continue to be disciplined and grind in the years that they need to the most, whcih is when they have a career.

especially bc you want to go into med what makes you think you'll sustainably make it through med school if you're making yourself sick in high school? and why are you fine with potentially making yourself sick long term? bc it will inhibit your ability to get through to the career you want.

why do you need to be disciplined and successful to make up for your bs life? ultimately you're searching for happiness and satisfaction in all the wrong places and you'll find that once you've graduated that everyone around you that was a bum and flopped high school anyway may have as equally as fulfilling as a life as you even tho you busted your ass for it.

ALSO the reason why it matters and ppl have the right to criticise what it is you're putting out is because younger grades will see this 12 hour study routine and do the same in a totally uninformed way. sure maybe you're fine and you'll be successful or whatever but your lifestyle will make the average person too sick to function normally.

 

[totally_screwed]

I think it’s hard to change someone’s perspective until life personally teaches you otherwise. I give “unconventional” study advice to my tutoring students like you don’t have to be glued to your desk and have zero fun or study 14 hours a day to do well in hsc and I can tell half of them don’t get it. but it’s fine bcz I thought the same way too, I just don’t anymore due to hindsight. I’ll continue giving that advice but not forcing it

just let people be, no amount of “you’re wrong and this is why” will change someone’s lens on something they have a deep view on

 

[iloveeggs]

I think it’s hard to change someone’s perspective until life personally teaches you otherwise. I give “unconventional” study advice to my tutoring students like you don’t have to be glued to your desk and have zero fun or study 14 hours a day to do well in hsc and I can tell half of them don’t get it. but it’s fine bcz I thought the same way too, I just don’t anymore due to hindsight. I’ll continue giving that advice but not forcing it

just let people be, no amount of “you’re wrong and this is why” will change someone’s lens on something they have a deep view on

yeah i get that. i was so resistant to this sort of advice, i quite literally had to be forced by parents + professionals to stop grinding (via restricting access to laptop screen time and going out everyday to restrict study hours) despite pushing myself past the lowest of the lows (lost family members, went through a health crisis etc. and still felt like i had to push through).

i was on the path to completely ruining my life honestly. i don't know if i'd be here writing this if i didn't have that realisation. and i feel horrible that i can't help someone else but sometimes it has to be life that teaches you things ig.

i feel the need to be reactive tho in case someone, if not the person i'm trying to convince, resonates with what i'm saying. bc i have seen way too many times in too many diff people how ppl make themselves sick, one dux of my school even went MIA and apparently dropped out of one of the most prestigious uni courses ever bc high school burnt them out entirely. it is never that deep

 

[iloveeggs]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im 99.9% sure that teenage children have the ability to decide what is wrong and what is right bbg......................

no they don't, people will do just about anything including copying random people's study routines if they think that is what will get them to success. how many people on this forum have you seen asking seniors for their study routines or people buying ranom shit bc influencers did the same? completely neglecting the fact that they probably had completely different lives? teenagers make mistakes all the time, nobody knows what's right or wrong for them all of the time, that's why we take advice, sometimes even when it comes from strangers that we don't know.

which is also why we don't put out unsustainable and potentially dangerous study advice on study forums bc it can cause ppl to crash and burn out, it's almost like promoting e/d inducing content on a health forum icl

 

[ButteryNucleotide]

damn this thread got spicy QUICK

 

[hscthisyearandimstressed]

no they don't, people will do just about anything including copying random people's study routines if they think that is what will get them to success. how many people on this forum have you seen asking seniors for their study routines or people buying ranom shit bc influencers did the same? completely neglecting the fact that they probably had completely different lives? teenagers make mistakes all the time, nobody knows what's right or wrong for them all of the time, that's why we take advice, sometimes even when it comes from strangers that we don't know.

which is also why we don't put out unsustainable and potentially dangerous study advice on study forums bc it can cause ppl to crash and burn out, it's almost like promoting e/d inducing content on a health forum icl

thank you for speaking out for all those who couldnt have recognised the potential harm a stranger's comments can have on ANY teenager/student because honestly after reading moey's comment about his 12 hour study routine i was in shock because wow.. i couldn't possibly do that + i haven't studied at all during these summer holidays and you know what? im not mad at myself for it. year 11 prelims burnt me out already and i recognised that i needed a break so i took it.

i've been focusing on myself- my mental health, social life, hobbies, etc. i've been going out with my friends and bonding with my sister and family, went to brisbane with my family for a bit, working out: pilates + gym, eating healthy, going outside more often on walks and trying to limit my screen time + sleeping early and waking up early! by doing this, im setting myself up for good habits and a positive routine to implement into my year 12 life alongside HSC studying. i realised that if i did all that + studying this term- all at once- then i'd just end up doing nothing/procrastinating because it's too much for a single person to go through in the span of a few weeks. i take visual arts so i've started my Body of Work already so i guess you could say i did a few small things here and there but nothing too substantial- and that's okay!

im glad i took the time to mentally prepare myself for this year because now i'm less stressed out and once this term starts i know i'll take it way more seriously because i'm now mentally prepared and insha Allah do well in the trials and HSC! good luck to everyone aswell <3 let's keep this forum as positive as possible.

psa: if moey thinks 12 hours a day is what'll ultimately help him in his journey into med + a high ATAR then so be it. like everyone else said, maybe bring the 12 hours a day down to 8 or 6 depending on your own judgement. please also refrain from mentioning or encouraging your study routine as everyone is different and studying routines are not a one size fits all. moey if u or anyone else in a similar situation reads this, please take care of yourself and know that the best thing to do for yourself is to take on a goal or passion that truly ressonates with you- dont do it for your parents, teachers or relatives- do it for YOU. <3

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

thank you for speaking out for all those who couldnt have recognised the potential harm a stranger's comments can have on ANY teenager/student because honestly after reading moey's comment about his 12 hour study routine i was in shock because wow.. i couldn't possibly do that + i haven't studied at all during these summer holidays and you know what? im not mad at myself for it. year 11 prelims burnt me out already and i recognised that i needed a break so i took it.

i've been focusing on myself- my mental health, social life, hobbies, etc. i've been going out with my friends and bonding with my sister and family, went to brisbane with my family for a bit, working out: pilates + gym, eating healthy, going outside more often on walks and trying to limit my screen time + sleeping early and waking up early! by doing this, im setting myself up for good habits and a positive routine to implement into my year 12 life alongside HSC studying. i realised that if i did all that + studying this term- all at once- then i'd just end up doing nothing/procrastinating because it's too much for a single person to go through in the span of a few weeks. i take visual arts so i've started my Body of Work already so i guess you could say i did a few small things here and there but nothing too substantial- and that's okay!

im glad i took the time to mentally prepare myself for this year because now i'm less stressed out and once this term starts i know i'll take it way more seriously because i'm now mentally prepared and insha Allah do well in the trials and HSC! good luck to everyone aswell <3 let's keep this forum as positive as possible.

psa: if moey thinks 12 hours a day is what'll ultimately help him in his journey into med + a high ATAR then so be it. like everyone else said, maybe bring the 12 hours a day down to 8 or 6 depending on your own judgement. please also refrain from mentioning or encouraging your study routine as everyone is different and studying routines are not a one size fits all. moey if u or anyone else in a similar situation reads this, please take care of yourself and know that the best thing to do for yourself is to take on a goal or passion that truly ressonates with you- dont do it for your parents, teachers or relatives- do it for YOU. <3

yeah, well said buddy, just stop saying im "promoting" this shcdeule cos that has never been my intention - the whole idea is weird, i was just answering to a thread that said "how much study do you intent to do...." and i shared my subjective opinion/voice - im not promoting anything

im not stupid, i DO see what an idiot i am following this, but i have my reasons and they prob dont match with everyone's assumptions and thats ok so be it im not here to prove anything either way. idk perhaps i could have worded myself better across the thread, and apologies to all for that if the case be so.

Do what YOU feel is right, whether thats rest or not Indeed if your happy thats all that matters in the end as Eggs and everyone has said. im not unaware of how unhealthy what im doing is im just not willing to budge and thereforemy suffering= my fault.

all the best <3

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

i've been focusing on myself- my mental health, social life, hobbies, etc. i've been going out with my friends and bonding with my sister and family, went to brisbane with my family for a bit, working out: pilates + gym, eating healthy, going outside more often on walks and trying to limit my screen time + sleeping early and waking up early! by doing this, im setting myself up for good habits and a positive routine to implement into my year 12 life alongside HSC studying. i realised that if i did all that + studying this term- all at once- then i'd just end up doing nothing/procrastinating because it's too much for a single person to go through in the span of a few weeks. i take visual arts so i've started my Body of Work already so i guess you could say i did a few small things here and there but nothing too substantial- and that's okay!

& there u go - u did better than ive done in 6 weeks of hell + ur happy

 

[rh_06]

I think the things said in this thread have kinda blown out of proportion especially in these past few days...
Just do whatever works for u, be it a 12hr study session or 3hrs a day. The important thing is balance and prioritising what you like/enjoy. If thats studying hard for your future, then so be it.

tldr theres no point in trying to change someones mind about how they study since everyone functions differently. I personally did fine with 6+hrs a day of effective study. Ik ppl that did much more (like moey) and much less yet achieved results as good if not better than mine.

 

[kkk579]

yeah i think i fell in love with the balcony like 20 times in December again a reason why everything i do is indeed over the top

balcony?

 

[iloveeggs]

I think the things said in this thread have kinda blown out of proportion especially in these past few days...
Just do whatever works for u, be it a 12hr study session or 3hrs a day. The important thing is balance and prioritising what you like/enjoy. If thats studying hard for your future, then so be it.

tldr theres no point in trying to change someones mind about how they study since everyone functions differently. I personally did fine with 6+hrs a day of effective study. Ik ppl that did much more (like moey) and much less yet achieved results as good if not better than mine.

@MoeyNeeds90+ i'd like to apologise more publically bc a lot of what i said came across more as a personal attack than a word of caution. i was more so trying to deter impressionable ppl from feeling like they NEED to study 12-16 hours per day to achieve good results or feel like they can't take time off during the holidays just to recharge despite it being "unproductive". if studying 12 hours a day works for you please do so but make sure you still prioritise your health as well and consider the RISKS of being sedentary for 12+ hours, not being able to spend time on other skills or your social life and more importantly taking breaks when you need them (not directed at moey but more so everyone reading this).

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

@MoeyNeeds90+ i'd like to apologise more publically bc a lot of what i said came across more as a personal attack than a word of caution. i was more so trying to deter impressionable ppl from feeling like they NEED to study 12-16 hours per day to achieve good results or feel like they can't take time off during the holidays just to recharge despite it being "unproductive". if studying 12 hours a day works for you please do so but make sure you still prioritise your health as well and consider the RISKS of being sedentary for 12+ hours, not being able to spend time on other skills or your social life and more importantly taking breaks when you need them (not directed at moey but more so everyone reading this).

@iloveeggs its not your fault its totally mine - i shoud've been clearer in what im saying im sorry.

just to be clear to everyone in this thread.

THIS SCHEDULE IS NOT HEALTHY - im NOT following this as everyone should, and in no regards am i (or have i) advocated u follow this in any way. As i have said like 10000000x its subjective and therefore you do whats right for u. Honestly im an idiot and im following an extremely stupid thing but as i reiterate for the thoudandsth time - its my fault, not yours. If 6 hours works for u so be it, same for 5,4,3,2,1 hours its all up to you. Look it up if u want people with 99.95's study for like 6 hours a day (half of what i do) and still manage to endorse in leisure and pleasure either way whilst achieving the best marks.

For the final time, apologies to everyone if you took what i said the wrong way its my fault not yours; i should've reiterated what i said better, mb.
Dont go spamming or attacking me cos i just dont have the energy to deal with it, my apologies are there and i acknowledged that should've been clearer^^^^^^^ and if u have a problem ur free to leave.

Best of luck guys. <3