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What would a procedure look like for oxidation of copper and dehydration of ethanol considering safety and justification?
Get copper strips/copper shackles and in a fume cabinet put dilute sulfuric acid on it and watch the solution turn blue. Gloves and shiiettt.

Do the same for sucrose or ethanol
 

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Get copper strips/copper shackles and in a fume cabinet put dilute sulfuric acid on it and watch the solution turn blue. Gloves and shiiettt.

Do the same for sucrose or ethanol
How about this dot point, "describe and explain the exothermic nature of sulfuric acid ionisation" how would you answer this if it was a question?
 

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How about this dot point, "describe and explain the exothermic nature of sulfuric acid ionisation" how would you answer this if it was a question?
Well when water combines with sulfuric acid the heat produced is highly exothermic and can turn the water and shit into mist.
 

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How about this dot point, "describe and explain the exothermic nature of sulfuric acid ionisation" how would you answer this if it was a question?
Describe - the ionisation of sulfuric acid is a highly exothermic reaction, and if not performed with greatest care, can cause water in the solution to violently spit, boil, and create a dangerous acidic mist. Explain - concentrated sulfuric acid is virtually 100% molecular; upon ionisation, some of the covalent bonds within the molecule are broken, releasing vast amounts of energy (and thus heat).
 

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Describe - the ionisation of sulfuric acid is a highly exothermic reaction, and if not performed with greatest care, can cause water in the solution to violently spit, boil, and create a dangerous acidic mist. Explain - concentrated sulfuric acid is virtually 100% molecular; upon ionisation, some of the covalent bonds within the molecule are broken, releasing vast amounts of energy (and thus heat).
Breaking bonds don't release energy.
 

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Breaking bonds don't release energy.
That is quite true, breaking bonds in fact absorb energy (its an endothermic process).
 

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Alright, I'm interested in who can spit out the best bs:
Why and how do chemists collaborate? Make specific reference to chemical procedures you have investigated and describe, in detail, the roles of three distinct chemists (e.g. analytical, environmental etc.)
 

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Alright, I'm interested in who can spit out the best bs:
Why and how do chemists collaborate? Make specific reference to chemical procedures you have investigated and describe, in detail, the roles of three distinct chemists (e.g. analytical, environmental etc.)
Chemists need to collaborate for three main reasons:
-Different chemists specialise in different expertise and roles in order to complete a task. Thus, collaborating in a task such as an oil spill, is beneficial to effectively minimise the waste caused and reduce environmental impacts.
-Collaboration with other chemists ensures improved interpretation of results by reducing the chance of human errors.
-Collaboration improves reliability by repetition of task.

Gas-Liquid Chromatography:
-relies on differing solubility in order to separate mixtures by passing a 'mobile phase' over a 'stationary phase'
-detector at the end measures the amount that has passed through of the column where it is analysed and identified.
-it works as substances that readily dissolve in the stationary phase as it will experience more intermolecular interactions.

Analytical:
-Measure conc and amount of substance
Industrial:
-Monitors efficiency of industrial processes and designing processes to maximise yields and rates
Enviro:
-Analyses how substances interact with ecosystem
 

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Alright, I'm interested in who can spit out the best bs:
Why and how do chemists collaborate? Make specific reference to chemical procedures you have investigated and describe, in detail, the roles of three distinct chemists (e.g. analytical, environmental etc.)
Just a question: for the syllabus dot point 9.4.1.1 ("Outline the role of a chemist...and explaining a chemical principle that the chemist uses"), do you guys reckon we need to have a specific chemist (like an actual person), or just a generic description of any chemist working in that particular industry?
Also, in terms of the "chemical principle", do you guys reckon AAS counts as a chemical principle? Given that it's more to do with the quantised orbits of electrons, rather than actual chemical bonding? Thx.
 

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Just a question: for the syllabus dot point 9.4.1.1 ("Outline the role of a chemist...and explaining a chemical principle that the chemist uses"), do you guys reckon we need to have a specific chemist (like an actual person), or just a generic description of any chemist working in that particular industry?
Also, in terms of the "chemical principle", do you guys reckon AAS counts as a chemical principle? Given that it's more to do with the quantised orbits of electrons, rather than actual chemical bonding? Thx.
Although the dot point says to have one specific chemist, meaning you have to find an actual chemist who has to be working. I have heard that you need one male and one female chemist who have different roles.

In terms of the chemical principles, you can say AAS I guess. It got more to do with what kind of knowledge the chemist has when solving an issue. For example: knowledge of acid and base reactions in order to neutralise spills
 

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Although the dot point says to have one specific chemist, meaning you have to find an actual chemist who has to be working. I have heard that you need one male and one female chemist who have different roles.

In terms of the chemical principles, you can say AAS I guess. It got more to do with what kind of knowledge the chemist has when solving an issue. For example: knowledge of acid and base reactions in order to neutralise spills
I'm sure there isn't going to be a question asking you: Name one "female" scientist...
 

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If the exam asks that question I'm throwing out the marks. Or a fake John Smith. Because fact is if they ask that they have to consult all of their sources to know if your chemist is real. Which takes effort. Which makes the question unlikely to be asked.
 
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