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:O Back to complex numbers are we?



 
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In hsc maths, can we use matrices/determinants, even though it is not in the course, to find the area of a polygon if they haven't specified "hence".
 

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In hsc maths, can we use matrices/determinants, even though it is not in the course, to find the area of a polygon if they haven't specified "hence".
Yes

But some teachers may not like it. Or even know the method. There was a conics question I remember that it would be more faster to use it. I think it's better practice to use the hence.
 
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^ Thanks a lot. Yeh matrices/determinants are really helpful and fast in finding the area, especially in conics. In the 2003 hsc conics question, 4 marks for the area of the triangle, using only 2-3 lines of working.
 

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Do you mean yes as in it is mathematically valid or yes as in it will be awarded marks according to the marking guidelines set forth by the board? I am extremely skeptical about the latter.
 

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Do you mean yes as in it is mathematically valid or yes as in it will be awarded marks according to the marking guidelines set forth by the board? I am extremely skeptical about the latter.
I was informed that if you use a method that is not within the bounds of the syllabus they will still mark it. Could I be wrong?
 

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Would someone please do question 9?
I really struggle to understand it and have no idea as to how to approach it.


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EDIT: Sorry, i don't know how to use the maths tool on this forum so i just screenshoted the questions.
 
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Would someone please do question 9?
I really struggle to understand it and have no idea as to how to approach it.


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EDIT: Sorry, i don't know how to use the maths tool on this forum so i just screenshoted the questions.

Let cos^-1(x)=a, then cosa=x, draw up a triangle and make an angle a, and u can see that cosa=x/1, so hypotenuse is 1, this means that the remaining side is sqrt(1-x^2) according to pythagoras' theorem. Then, since u let cos^-1=a, just replace it in the original thing, so u get tana=? and u have ur triangle drawn up, so its easy to see the answer is C
 

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can someone explain the perms/combs 2008 q7a
i) U want 3 balls of the same colour. FIRST THING U GOTTA DO, is pick a colour which u want to "replicate" three times. So 3c1, three colours. You want to have three balls out of n balls, so times that by nC3.

You divide this by the total number of possibilities, which is choosing three balls out of 3n balls, THIS IS BECAUSE you have n balls of each colour, and 3 colours, so 3nC3.



ii) Here you want to choose 1 ball of each colour, (all different colours) so you choose 1 from n, ie nC1, and you do this for each colour, so nC1^3, and again, divide by total possibilities, which is 3nC3.


iii) Here, you want to choose 1 colour, and have 2 balls of that colour, then choose another colour FROM THE TWO THAT REMAIN, to have 1 ball of one of those colours. So 3C1 for one colour, and u choose 2 balls from n balls, so nC2. To choose the remaining ball, you can choose from 2 colours, so pick one as per 2C1, and you choose 1 ball of that colour from n balls, so nC1. Times 3C1.nC2.2C1.nC1 and divide again by total possibilities, 3nC3 for the answer.


iv) Put the results in a ratio against one another, and use the standard transformation or idk what u call it, Nck=n!/(n-k)!k!, for each part of the ratio. If n is large, n, n-1, n-2 etc, are all around the same value n, so u can write n.n-1.n-2 as n^3 etc. Simplify and u have result.
 

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do u have the solutions as well, coz I have what u have. but the answers are wierd.
i) (n-1)/(3n-1) x (n-2)/(3n-2)
 

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Let cos^-1(x)=a, then cosa=x, draw up a triangle and make an angle a, and u can see that cosa=x/1, so hypotenuse is 1, this means that the remaining side is sqrt(1-x^2) according to pythagoras' theorem. Then, since u let cos^-1=a, just replace it in the original thing, so u get tana=? and u have ur triangle drawn up, so its easy to see the answer is C
ahhh yeah... i never even thought of drawing the triangle.

Thanks a lot.
 

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Can someone please explain why the limits are as such in the following volumes question? Thanks.

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Can someone please explain why the limits are as such in the following volumes question? Thanks.

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At height H is the max volume of water u can have. So u get rsintheta as this is describing the amount of the radius of the cone contained in the height of the water, thus enabling u to find volume in terms of r.

HOLY SHIT WAT A WEIRDASS EXPLANATION


lol ehh idk how to explain differently. Realisenothing will.
 
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At height H is the max volume of water u can have. So u get rsintheta as this is describing the amount of the radius of the cone contained in the height of the water, thus enabling u to find volume in terms of r.

HOLY SHIT WAT A WEIRDASS EXPLANATION


lol ehh idk how to explain differently. Realisenothing will.
Yeah... the fact that the bowl is tilted is playing with my mind...
 

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Yeah... the fact that the bowl is tilted is playing with my mind...
U know why its pi(r^2-h^2) though right? just confused about limits?

Idk how good of an explanation mine is lol, essentially its "what proportion of r is contained in the max height of the water".
 

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U know why its pi(r^2-h^2) though right? just confused about limits?

Idk how good of an explanation mine is lol, essentially its "what proportion of r is contained in the max height of the water".
Yeah I understand the area of the slice etc. it's just the limits that's confusing me...
 
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