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"Riemann sums" *In a strong German accent*.
Lmfao.

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Lmfao.

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The natural numbers start from 0, not 1.

But of course the inductive step is correct. Well done. I won't ask for any further technicality in 3U

To answer the question: True by mathematical induction is enough, but try not to abbreviate it. Fussy markers deduct you for it, others don't. (What's stupid is when they deduct you marks for not writing the paragraph.)
 

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Don't need to waste time writing a long conclusion involving the 'if true for n = 1, then true for n = 2' etc. mantra (in fact, it's theoretically bad to). Just need to write something like 'hence the result is true by induction'.
 

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The natural numbers start from 0, not 1.
No they don't. You don't control the international standards which nobody has even agreed upon.

On that note though, I include 0 as a natural number.
 
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Don't need to waste time writing a long conclusion involving the 'if true for n = 1, then true for n = 2' etc. mantra (in fact, it's theoretically bad to). Just need to write something like 'hence the result is true by induction'.
Fitzpatrick does it like:

True for n=k+1 if n=k is true
True for n=1
By induction, it is true for all positive integers n

Would this be alright too
 

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No they don't. You don't control the international standards which nobody has even agreed upon.

On that note though, I include 0 as a natural number.
I stopped caring about authors who said otherwise after too much exposure to "positive integers" everywhere.
 

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I stopped caring about authors who said otherwise after too much exposure to "positive integers" everywhere.
The only ones who do nowadays are those who work in Real Analysis... But that's not my only priority so my definition will not align with theirs.
 

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Fitzpatrick does it like:

True for n=k+1 if n=k is true
True for n=1
By induction, it is true for all positive integers n

Would this be alright too
Just write : "The proposition P(n) is true for all positive integers n." *Assuming you said "let the proposition/statement be P(n)."*

Also as Integrand says it is not theoretically right as because when do you stop counting ? (As Prof. Peter Brown said)

Mathematical Induction is one of or the only thing in maths that proves something for all infinite cases from my knowledge.
 

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This was the last question in the 2009 HSC



they put the reasoning




I didn't see it first time but the external point in this case is at the foot of the wall. Could someone confirm?
Am I also right in saying with this question , is when P and T are at equal points ), theta is the maximum? Do they have to be on the tangent line?
 

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Yeah, theta is maximised when P = T.
 

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I sincerely remember there being a method to do this one by showing that equality like in the AM-GM inequality was when a=b=c, but I just can't remember how.
 
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