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kami

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Not-That-Bright said:
Is it possible to defer a university offer, and re-sit the hsc... then still take up that offer if you so choose the next year?
Yup!:).
EDIT: Just make sure you don't do any TAFE courses as part of your HSC repetition as that would count as tertiary studies and you'd have to apply for uni entry again after to your original uni without the advantage of deferred offer.
 
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kami said:
She did it all in one year, and yes she was repeating as she had had health issues which barred her from attermpting mid-yearlies onward at school. She had a full time job at the time as well.(woooh go Janelle!):)

And there is no scaling down or up regarding TAFE - what *does* matter is how your class performs as a group and how you perform within that class. And of course the final exam.

And Kogarah TAFE doesn't have a HSC program but some of the ones relatively near you that you might be interested in are Gymea, Bankstown and Randwick or alternatively OTEN via correspondence.
Wow, your friend's such a smartie! I wish I could get that mark.

Yeah, I'm just a bit concerned about how the class performs. I don't want to be dragged down, nor do I want to drag others down for that matter. =/ Hmm, I guess I should worry about my own personal performance first.

I think I'll go to Gymea. I used to go to a school in the shire anyway so it'll feel pretty much routine.

How are the teachers? Especially for maths since it's my weakest subject. ><

Sorry for asking too many questions.
 
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By deferring you can't study at any Tertiary Institutions
 

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Tuna said:
By deferring you can't study at any Tertiary Institutions
Correction: You can't study tertiary courses while deferring- HSC is a secondary course not a tertiary one.:)
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Wow, your friend's such a smartie! I wish I could get that mark.

Yeah, I'm just a bit concerned about how the class performs. I don't want to be dragged down, nor do I want to drag others down for that matter. =/ Hmm, I guess I should worry about my own personal performance first.

I think I'll go to Gymea. I used to go to a school in the shire anyway so it'll feel pretty much routine.

How are the teachers? Especially for maths since it's my weakest subject. ><

Sorry for asking too many questions.
Well the thing with TAFE is, is that there is no solid trend in performance because everyone is from a different background as opposed to being there since year 7, so you might get a couple of people like Janelle who are capable of the 99.75 mixed in with some people who don't get above 3% for their HSC in a subject - it just depends.

Since I went to Gymea I can tell you all about its teachers:

English - solid faculty with both day and night classes and they run Fundamentals, Standard, Advanced and Extension 1 atm so there is some variety too. Janet Toms would most likely be your teacher and she is just fantastic.

Maths - This faculty can be a bit weird depending on the status of things next year, but they run General Maths, Mathematics and Extension 1 Mathematics. At present the latter two are taught by Sally Gloag who is a scatterbrain to be honest and whose skills lie in higher math like Ext 2 or alternatively Physics. Robin, the current General maths teacher is utterly fantastic though and she may be back to teaching Mathematics next year depending on time table.

Sciences - Currently the Biology teacher is an idiot, the Physics teacher is retiring and may or may not be replaced by his wife Sally and the Chemistry teacher is pretty good but looking at retiring sometime soon so things may be different in the new year.
 
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Sounds promising. :)

I would have to do French through OTEN though. Is that like Open High? Where you are taught by corresponding with teachers?
 

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Sugar said:
Sounds promising. :)

I would have to do French through OTEN though. Is that like Open High? Where you are taught by corresponding with teachers?
Yuppers they send out assesments and a few supplementary materials, you also can phone the teacher if you are in a bind. However its also important to note that OTEN only offers Beginners, not Continuers and you'd have to ask them if thats something you can technically repeat given you aren't exactly a Beginner to the language anymore, because of that point you might be better off with Open High School depending on what OTEN's answer is.

Oh, and I forgot to mention - Karen, the history teacher at Gymea, is incredibly dedicated and very capable with her subject so if you do any history you're in luck.
 

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kami said:
Yuppers they send out assesments and a few supplementary materials, you also can phone the teacher if you are in a bind. However its also important to note that OTEN only offers Beginners, not Continuers and you'd have to ask them if thats something you can technically repeat given you aren't exactly a Beginner to the language anymore, because of that point you might be better off with Open High School depending on what OTEN's answer is.

Oh, and I forgot to mention - Karen, the history teacher at Gymea, is incredibly dedicated and very capable with her subject so if you do any history you're in luck.
I did French Continuers so maybe I'll do Open High.

Hurray! I did Modern History, so I'll probably being doing it for next year. :D

Hey, thanks for answering my questions. I'm reading your Guide to Tafe and it's really useful. Thankyou! :)
 

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Hi, I have a couple of questions about Tafe.

- Do you get to choose what to study? Like in English for example, would you be able to study Imaginative Journey and the modules you have previously studied, or you just study what the teacher assigns?

- How big are the classes?

- Is the hours like high school, like from 9 to 3, every day of the week?

TIA. :cool:
 

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Hi, I have a couple of questions about Tafe.

- Do you get to choose what to study? Like in English for example, would you be able to study Imaginative Journey and the modules you have previously studied, or you just study what the teacher assigns?

- How big are the classes?

- Is the hours like high school, like from 9 to 3, every day of the week?

TIA. :cool:
Your answers:
Its a class so your teacher chooses the modules and writes up the assignments.

Classes are usually fairly small - this year for me most classes never had more than 10 people in it, however the most popular subjects such as Advanced English, General Maths, Biology and Business Studies have larger class sizes more similar to schools.

Hours are not like schools - each 'period' will be 2 or 3 hours(usually 3) and for a 2 unit subject you will have 2 of those a week. Some classes may also be at night and go for up to 4 hours in one sitting and is the sole class for that subject. It is also highly likely you will have very large breaks and possibly a whole free day depending on timetables.
 

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Thanks for that!

Do you think its better to repeat at Tafe or at another local school?

My friend's friend got 67 uai last year, re-sat Year 12 at Port Hacking and got 95.15! Makes me want to repeat even more.
 

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Thanks for that!

Do you think its better to repeat at Tafe or at another local school?

My friend's friend got 67 uai last year, re-sat Year 12 at Port Hacking and got 95.15! Makes me want to repeat even more.
Go wherever you feel comfortable going - because of the way TAFE teaches their subjects you could pick entirely new ones however most people don't in the end and thus the difference is purely that of timetabling and location IMO.
 

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Ah, alright.

I want to do the entire HSC in one year. So Term 1 covers prelim and Term 2 and 3 cover HSC? I'm just about iffed about that because I'm not sure two terms is enough to cover the HSC syllabus for heavier subjects, like English and History. I'll be fine if I did the same modules and topics in 05, but if not.. =/

Do they have longer hours in Term 2 and 3 to cover the HSC topics?
 

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Ah, alright.

I want to do the entire HSC in one year. So Term 1 covers prelim and Term 2 and 3 cover HSC? I'm just about iffed about that because I'm not sure two terms is enough to cover the HSC syllabus for heavier subjects, like English and History. I'll be fine if I did the same modules and topics in 05, but if not.. =/

Do they have longer hours in Term 2 and 3 to cover the HSC topics?
Well I find that TAFE classes in general are much longer than what I've heard from many schools - we recieve approximately 3 hours of class time per unit and classes actually continue through term 4 for most subjects as unlike in a school not everyone starts their HSC with english. You'll also have a free tutor available in the ILC(also known as the ALC in some places) for Maths, English and sometimes Science and Computing - and this service is run by TAFE as a state-wide thing so you can drop into *any* TAFE's ILC once you enroll at your campus's HSC program.
 

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So generally, when are the applications due in and is it available on the internet??? thanks in advance and thanks kami for all the info and advice!
 

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So generally, when are the applications due in and is it available on the internet??? thanks in advance and thanks kami for all the info and advice!
You visit the info day at the campus of your choice, a handful of campuses will hold an info day tommorow(they'll have an enrollment day when the rest do next year anyway) and most will hold one in late January/early February. Then you probably will get a very brief interview and you will lodge your application and voila.:)

So no internet applications lol.
 

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jubs_ said:
WAITTTT can i also ask if you could do one year of tafe.. and transfer to UNI? (with an incompleted diploma or sertificate?)
You may use your marks from a Diploma and in a handful of cases a Certificate IV course at TAFE as basis for entry to a Bachelor. The more you complete the more competitve you are for entry and thus with an incomplete Certificate IV it would be IMO a bit of a waste of time. If you plan to go that route it would be better to complete your Diploma so that you may recieve credit for the time spent at TAFE as well as a more competitive entrance score.
 

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HSC at TAFE

I have just completed the Tertiary Preparation Certificate at Newcastle TAFE, and as far as I am concerned anyone looking at the HSC in any education facility would be much better off doing this course as it lifted my UAI from 45 to approx. 85!
 

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do you make friends easily at TAFE? i want to go to tafe but i also don't want to be a nigil there. and what's the ratio of the number of people there compared to high school?
 

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do you make friends easily at TAFE? i want to go to tafe but i also don't want to be a nigil there. and what's the ratio of the number of people there compared to high school?
How easily you make friends is really up to you. However you should be warned that unlike highschool there is no home room, school assemblies or school wide lunch breaks that everyone attends. Further, not everyone will even be doing english so there will be students you might never meet or are in at most 1 of your classes. This is basically what happens at uni though so its not as horrible as it sounds - you just have to be someone who actively socialises.

And if you mean comparitively how many students a TAFE gets as opposed to a school, well it varies widely my TAFE was rather average as TAFEs go and had around 60 people doing the combined year 11/12 program a year. Whereas Bradfield at the other end of the spectrum has 250+ students I think, and they are all year 11 and 12. As for schools, considering there are several hundred of schools with year 12 cohorts ranging from around 10 to way over 200 it then becomes rather difficult to compare the numbers.
 

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this is prob the last question that i'll ask.

lets say i:
A. finish year 11+12 and do my hsc at school
or
B. do those stuff at TAFE.

which one would have the better advantage?
would universities prefer option A more?
 

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