Huge far-right, white supremacist rallies scheduled to be held across Australia on August 31st (2 Viewers)

[bigupsanky]

Don't be so sure, the Greek, Italian, Balkan immigrants who came in the 60s and 70s faced similar issues when they arrived. Before then Im sure the Irish copped it as well. It's just human nature to be averse to "outsiders" - all ethnicities are racist to an extent, it's just less acceptable in some societies vs others.

Yes, but nowadays most racial attacks occur against Indians or people from Asia or Africa. Times have changed. A famous example is the Christchurch Mosque shooting that happened about 10 years ago. Also, most attacks have been on the Jewish, Muslims, and Asians over the last 10 years.

 

[bigupsanky]

The white supremacists undoubtly did huge damage to the cause by leading the protests. Also, I dont know what they were thinking attacking the Indigenous site - like, protesting against immigrants and then attacking the original inhabitants of the land. Nazi's were never the most intelligent people...

Facts

 

[academic_reaper]

I love how everyone here profile immigrants based on stereotypes and not facts

It is facts... there are so many people literally crashing on the road for going more than 2ce the speed limit n dying after just coming to aus on a student visa less than 6 months...

Two students dead after being trapped in burning car following crash

Bystanders pulled two people from the burning car, but the remaining two people were trapped.

7news.com.au

This is just one case, there's a couple more with different backgrounds and the same replica of death in melbourne too.
So try telling me l'm wrong.

There are so many conversations about this (https://www.facebook.com/groups/577994475588160/posts/24129952313299045/), and l am not blind to the fact that yes while ppl from my country and those around it are literal targets of racism and what-not, they sometimes also prove certain points eg 'not everyone on student visa should be let into the country', because what if more people die like this? What if worser crimes happen because australia allows other ethnicities eg russians or even americans to come in and start idk bombing places? That can happen.
Hence what l'm saying is, Australia should make it more "if you have this gpa or meet this academic benchmark, we'll let you in to study" kinda thing.

Note - I'm not for this nazism thing, or white suppremacy bs, neither am l supporting it (all races r =), but l'm just agreeing with someone saying its good to have stricter immigration policies, precisely for this reason. Like you don't allow tourists in to litter your country, do you?

 

[academic_reaper]

Guys, shouldn't we be focusing on HSC ? It's like next month.
Who even made this thread?

 

[SylviaB]

Strict immigration policies alone don’t automatically make a country racist, they’re often shaped by history, population size, and economics.

What’s happening here is different. White supremacist rallies are explicitly about racial hatred and exclusion.
Pointing to China’s policies doesn’t excuse or justify far-right extremism in Australia. It’s a separate issue and a bit of a deflection.

What's "extremist" about wanting less immigration?

And China's immigration polices ARE based on race. People in China, especially the government, see Chinese as superior and do not want large numbers of minorities in the country.

 

[SylviaB]

Also
1. China since communism has always been a relatively closed country. Only in the last 50 years they have been opening up to globalisation,

Okay, so what? Their immigration polcies are still "racist" by the standards western countries are held to.

2. Sure mass-immigration can cause negative impacts to the Australian economy but the supporters would have a 0% problem if white people from other nations like European countries, USA, or Canada mass immigrated to Australia. They have a problem with people of a different race. That's why this protest is branded as racist. It is clearly evident with a lot of neo-nazi leaders being cheered on by protesters in Sydney and Melbourne, and also people disrespecting a sacred Aboriginal camp area in Adelaide.

You're confused as to why people prefer higher quality immigrants over lower quality immigrants? You're confused why people want more culturally similar immigrants than dissimilar immigrants? Everyone on earth prefers to live in a country with people culturally similar to themselves, but only white people are ever called "racist" for this (and maybe Japanese).

 

[SylviaB]

From what l have read, SylviaB remind me of a karen (no offence...?)

Karen?

You clowns are the ones engaging in hyserical freakouts on the internet over something you find offensive. This is literally karen behavior.

 

[SylviaB]

The white supremacists undoubtly did huge damage to the cause by leading the protests. Also, I dont know what they were thinking attacking the Indigenous site - like, protesting against immigrants and then attacking the original inhabitants of the land. Nazi's were never the most intelligent people...

A small contingent stormed the aboriginal site, the NSN. Most of the prostesters didn't do this or support this.

 

[Socialism]

A small contingent stormed the aboriginal site, the NSN. Most of the prostesters didn't do this or support this.

correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't you making the same point here? I felt like Enoilgam was saying that the NSN ruined the protest and i feel like that was what you were saying too?

 

[SylviaB]

Japan began invading China before World War 2 officially begun. So, Hitler was still responsible for major violence across Europe and Africa.

The 70 million figure you listed is complete horseshit then. You admit it.

And Genghis Khan was not a Muslim, he was a follower of Tengrism.

Are you illiterate or something? I never said he was muslim.

And he significantly improved the silk route through the unification of multiple regions. Cities like Samarkand thrived under his rule.

Most of where he conquered experienced economic decline.

By the way, British colonisation lead to massive economic growth in most places, from the Americas, Africa and Australia. And didn't involve the slaighter of millions of people. And yet you defend butchers like Khan and cry about colonisation.

You've proved my point. The substance of actions don't matter, all that matters if the people doing them were white or not.

The white race is responsible for some of the worst atrocities across history, so it is the reputation that they have built for themselves that accounts for this condemnation.

Whites were responsible for the worst atrocities because you don't consider anything a non-white person did to be an atrocity, like your braindead defence of bloodthirsty maniacs like ghngis khan.

 

[SylviaB]

I love how everyone here profile immigrants based on stereotypes and not facts

Weird how you weren't saying that when that dumb bih was claiming australians were all unemployed on centrelink, or claiming all white people are "racist" for wanting the same immigration polcies as non-white countries.

 

[SylviaB]

I also like pancakes, however waffles are my top pick.

So your strategy in this thread is to be dead wrong about everything, and completely ignore it when I point this out?

 

[SylviaB]

Yes, but nowadays most racial attacks occur against Indians or people from Asia or Africa. Times have changed.

Africans are the ones doing the attacks, not the other way around.

A famous example is the Christchurch Mosque shooting that happened about 10 years ago. Also, most attacks have been on the Jewish, Muslims, and Asians over the last 10 years.

It's weird, if I brought up the fact that an immigrant carried out the Sydney siege just over 10 years ago, you would say this is irrelevant and "stereotyping" immigrants. But apparently white australians are categorically complicit in some attack in New Zealand? Get bent.

Muslims are wildly overrepresented in crime, they're not the victims. Lebanese committed gang rapes against white australian girls, and people like you were more upset that white people stood up against these attacks than you were about the attacks themselves.

And jews have almost exclusively been attacked by immigrants - which hurts your argument, not mine.

 

[SylviaB]

PS I thought Australia LOVED being a multi-national country. What's all this then?

Nobody ever voted for multiculturalism. It was never popular. It was brought in by politicians for their own ideological or political ends, or to help Australia's financial interests (in industries such as real estate). And kids were brainwashed from a young age to believe it was good because the default state of people around the world is to prefer people similar to you. But white people (and only white people) were taught that this was evil and wrong.

 

[Socialism]

are you responding to the same post multiple times :interrobang

 

[SylviaB]

I definitely agree that immigrants must follow Australian rules and regulations, and not impose their culture on everyone else. But the White Australia which we are talking about in the protests want white supremacy, not a reduction of immigration. All races are equal here, and what is concerning is that hundreds of thousands went to rally against minorities, as proven in these pictures here. View attachment 48866View attachment 48868
Also, yes, I will admit that in the Palestinian protests, people did hold offensive and abhorrent signs such as "Death to Australia" and flags of terrorist groups like the Taliban. But, I haven't read any article that says that violence occurred against other people in these protests. However, in this protest, a brawl did occur between pro-palestinians and anti immigrants.

Hey dumb dumb, this is what immigrants do:




And the only reason there was violence at the immigration protests is because the pro-immigrant protesters attacked the anti-immigration protesters. It would have been perfectly peaceful, but pro-immigration agitators came for violence. And yet somehow, dorks like you blame the anti-immigration protesters.

 

[SylviaB]

Nazi's were never the most intelligent people...

???????

 

[SylviaB]

are you responding to the same post multiple times :interrobang

No??????

 

[SylviaB]

@enoilgam Why did you like Tony Stark's post?

he made an objectively incorrect argument, I refuted it, and then he started talking about pancakes and you liked the post

You accuse me of making logical fallacies, but haven't been able to provide a single example of this, and when other people make logical fallcies, you like their posts

It's almost as if you have no basis for what you said and just hate the fact that I disagree with you

 

[Socialism]

while i've got you here, what is the back story to your profile picture? has it just always been that way?