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hey...i need help with the impact of Vietnamisation on the South VIetnamese..i cant find much info anyway!
..if u know about it or where some good info is like on the net or something that'd be fab!

thank u!:confused: :confused:
 

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how could you not be able to find info on it?? its like one of the most important things?

give me some idea of how much you know about it and i'll see if i can help you out... do you know what it is? what textbooks is your class using?
 

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thanks for replying,
yeh i kno what it is...but i need to know bout the political, economic, social aspects impacting on the Sth Vietnamese after the American's began their withdrawal of troops (Vietnamisation).
our text book is 'War Without End: conflict in Indo-China'.
 

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well i cant really remember that much off the top of my head.. but basically i believe that Vietnamisation led to the american/south vietnamese defeat... given that it placed the power in the hands of the SV, it meant that they ended up losing more battles, having increased casualties etc etc because despite the fact the US had provided them with weapons etc, they were poorly trained and inefficient

i recommend the textbook "conflict in indochina" by ian sutherland if you can find it anywhere-- it's better than War Without End

in Conflict in Indochina, it has something which might be of interest to you--

(pg. 115)

Problems With Vietnamisation
  • The South Vietnamese Army was increased to over a million men. This meant that there were twice as many soldiers to drain the economy and live off the people.
  • It increased the opportunities for officers to take part in corruption. The example was set at the top, with Vice President Nguyen Cao Ky playing a central role in the drug trade. Making money and playing politics occupied most of the general's time.
  • The US became closely tied to the Thieu regime. This small group lacked political support and relied on the Army to stay in power.
  • The ARVN became reliant on US weapons (M-16's, Hueys, tanks). The ARVN were not familiar with these weapons and they were not weapons that had been successful for the US in the war.
  • The military initiative was clearly with the Communists. The North Vietnamese played an increasing role and the Communist Army became much more regular than a guerilla force.
i hope that helped you a bit. :)
 

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hehe ian sutherland is my teacher!
 

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Originally posted by s2ophie
hehe ian sutherland is my teacher!
really???

is he good, you guys??

the guy who wrote the other textbook (war without end )- james harpur- i went to a lecture by him at one of the HTA modern history days and it was really good!! i kind of wished that dude was my teacher. ian sutherland is probably the same
 

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he is good. he has a real problem with sitting on a desk with a chair between his legs but thats another story!! the only other problem is hte notes he gives us are short and to the point which makes them hard to summarise!!
 

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He is good... he's very nice to his classes, he lets us get hot chips sometimes hehe! He knows his stuff, that's for sure.
 

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that is so unfair! our class doesn't even have a textbook, and u guys get someone who wrote one!!! lol :p

i think i'll have a look around for that one u mentioned though :) might be good, im not going so well in indochina... (i miss russia...)
 

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yeah we using war without end too... our teacher rekons its the best text book out there on vietnam... i havnt seen "conflict in vietnam" .... hmmmm might have to have a look....

does anyone know how much histography we should be using in our history essays? is it that important...
 

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historigraphy is the difference between band 5 and band 6. but remember historiography can be ANYTHING- not just a historian's thoughts; e.g in indochina, a speech by general westmoreland could be used as historiography if you're proving a point.
 

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kiem sounds familiar but i don't know from where

its good having sutho as our teacher except he seems to want to spend all our time teaching us indochina!

maybe i could say my teacher is my historiography "as my teacher said..."
 

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Originally posted by Over97
kiem = president of the HTA
AHA! i knew it! i have the HTA book. what does he specialise in (eg my teacher = indochina)?
 

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i think he specialises in WWII, because he went 2 america to help some US historians research pearl harbour.
 

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Are any of your teachers suspiciously in love with some Historical figures? mine has this thing for Bismarck. And Ho Chi Minh. and Speer. and Woodrow Wilson. But i spose its a good thing, cause he really knows his stuff back to front
 

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He??? Now that's a little odd lol. I think our teacher might have a thing for Leni Riefenstahl lol.... just joking. But our teacher is passionate about Vietnamese history.
 

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