• Best of luck to the class of 2024 for their HSC exams. You got this!
    Let us know your thoughts on the HSC exams here
  • YOU can help the next generation of students in the community!
    Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page
MedVision ad

Induction question... (1 Viewer)

dlesmond

Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2006
Messages
38
Location
Caringbah
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
Hey I have a difficult (for me anyway) induction question that I can't seem to solve. Can someone please help me out? Any help would be appreciated...

I have typed up the steps that I can do so far...

Word file attached.
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2006
Messages
549
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
You're going about it the wrong way- you look as if you're trying to find n or something. The question's wrong, it should be greater than OR equal to (equality for n=1)

base case: true for n=1

inductive step:

suppose (x+y)^k-x^k-y^k >= 0

you then want to prove (x+y)^(k+1)-x^(k+1)-y^(k+1) >= 0


(x+y)^(k+1)-x^(k+1)-y^(k+1) = x[(x+y)^k-x^k] + y[(x+y)^k-y^k]
RHS > (x+y)[(x+y)^k-x^k-y^k] as x and y are positive
which is positive as both factors are positive, from your assumption
 

dlesmond

Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2006
Messages
38
Location
Caringbah
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
Cheers for your help, but I don't think that's what the question's asking for. It's a dumb question anyway.
 

martinb

New Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2007
Messages
5
Gender
Male
HSC
2008
Solution attached - hope it makes sense
 
Last edited:

Chinmoku03

Ippen, Shin de Miru?
Joined
Nov 7, 2006
Messages
393
Location
Australia >.<;
Gender
Male
HSC
2007
I'm thinking whether there is a restriction on what values x and y can be, but eh

Prove that (x+y)n > xn+yn, n >= 1

Step 1: Prove true for n = 1
Sub n = 1:
Let LHS = x+y
Thus LHS >= RHS
Thus true for n = 1

Step 2: Assume true for n = k, k >= 1
So (x+y)k > xk+yk

Step 3: Prove true for n = k+1, k+1 >= 1
Sub n = k+1
Let LHS = (x+y)k+1
Thus LHS = (x+y)(x+y)k
Thus LHS > (x+y)(xk+yk)
Thus LHS > xk+1+yk+1+xky+xyk
Thus LHS > xk+1+yk+1
Thus LHS > RHS
Thus true for n = k+1

Therefore, (x+y)n > xn+yn, n >= 1

EDIT: Oops, forgot it said all positive integers, so 1 is included >.<; Fixed my answer up
 
Last edited:

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top