It's a waste: seawater not the solution (1 Viewer)

[Sonic]

Hell...
Just feed the masses recyc water without actually telling them...

hey how do we know that they don't already do it????

 

[mr_brightside]

hey how do we know that they don't already do it????

.....fuck me...your onto something there...

 

[withoutaface]

hey how do we know that they don't already do it????

Because it'd be on the public record.

 

[mr_brightside]

Because it'd be on the public record.

How do we know thats the truth?

 

[Sonic]

How do we know thats the truth?

quite true.... this is big... really BIG

 

[veterandoggy]

Desalination comes from the ocean. Recycled comes from sewerage.

ahh, my friend. but doesnt sewage go to the ocean? i mean, they arent going to exactly direct the sewage water to the desalination plant, but some of that water would have moved around by osmosis.

 

[withoutaface]

ahh, my friend. but doesnt sewage go to the ocean? i mean, they arent going to exactly direct the sewage water to the desalination plant, but some of that water would have moved around by osmosis.

.00001% of it may be from excrement, but that is so negligable that your argument is redundant.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

Well I think his point does make a little bit of sense, in that technically we're probably already drinking naturally recycled pee pee.

 

[Sonic]

yeah if you really do go out there and trace all water there is pee in there somewhere even in rainwater e.t.c

 

[mr_brightside]

Im never drinking water again.........

*3 days later*

x_x

 

[RingerINC]

All atoms may have been in something disgusting in the past. The point is, is that they weren’t in something disgusting IMMEDIATELY in the past.

I could never bring myself to drink water which had come solely from sewage. Desalination is the way to go.

seriously... you didnt need to say atoms... god

anyways i thought some random town somewhere in australia was using recycled water and no one in the town noticed... wasnt it discovered recently... or am i tripping out here.

 

[malkin86]

ahh, my friend. but doesnt sewage go to the ocean? i mean, they arent going to exactly direct the sewage water to the desalination plant, but some of that water would have moved around by osmosis.

Once the sewerage has been tertiary treated (looks just like other water) in the plant, why would you bother sending it out to the ocean again, if you were wanting to harness it?

Currently it is sent out, (although some model villages in Rouse Hill use recycled water for non-drinking uses) but if one were to try to harness the recycled water, there would be holding tanks and eventually it'd get pumped into the dams and into homes. Cheaper than tertiary treating the sewerage, pumping it into the ocean and then desalinating the ocean water and pumping it into the dams.

If the conspiracy theory about us already drinking recycled water was true, we'd have a *lot* more water in the dams than we already do.

I wouldn't mind using recycled water for household uses - it's ridiculous that we use otherwise potable water to flush the toilet with, I think. It'd take me a while to come around to drinking it, but even normal water can become contaminated (1998 anyone?) so as long as I couldn't taste a difference, I think I'd be right.

The thing is, not all the STPs treat the full way to tertiary treated water (due to space constraints - who's going to give up prime real estate in the middle of Sydney for a STP?) - Cronulla, for example, goes the full way, but Bondi only goes to primary treatment (still looks like brown sludge). There's an explanation of stages of sewerage treatment available, but sadly, it has no pictures.

I went on an excursion to a STP in year 11, if youse are wondering how I'm such a mine of information on the subject.

 

[malkin86]

Slight *bump* http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...-on-water-plant/2005/12/12/1134236005905.html

 

[Vangineer]

they shud make a woganation plant which churns those rapers, killers and trouble makers with repeated crime history into water, ... we have much more of troublemaking lebbos than salt in the world

 

[veterandoggy]

they shud make a woganation plant which churns those rapers, killers and trouble makers with repeated crime history into water, ... we have much more of troublemaking lebbos than salt in the world

we should make something to shut idiots like you up.

but back on topic

Once the sewerage has been tertiary treated (looks just like other water) in the plant, why would you bother sending it out to the ocean again, if you were wanting to harness it?

Currently it is sent out, (although some model villages in Rouse Hill use recycled water for non-drinking uses) but if one were to try to harness the recycled water, there would be holding tanks and eventually it'd get pumped into the dams and into homes. Cheaper than tertiary treating the sewerage, pumping it into the ocean and then desalinating the ocean water and pumping it into the dams.

If the conspiracy theory about us already drinking recycled water was true, we'd have a *lot* more water in the dams than we already do.

I wouldn't mind using recycled water for household uses - it's ridiculous that we use otherwise potable water to flush the toilet with, I think. It'd take me a while to come around to drinking it, but even normal water can become contaminated (1998 anyone?) so as long as I couldn't taste a difference, I think I'd be right.

The thing is, not all the STPs treat the full way to tertiary treated water (due to space constraints - who's going to give up prime real estate in the middle of Sydney for a STP?) - Cronulla, for example, goes the full way, but Bondi only goes to primary treatment (still looks like brown sludge). There's an explanation of stages of sewerage treatment available, but sadly, it has no pictures.

I went on an excursion to a STP in year 11, if youse are wondering how I'm such a mine of information on the subject.

i meant that sewage isnt pumped out raw into our waterways, and so THIS treated sewage (not the one they completely cleanse) would make its way to desalination plants.

 

[malkin86]

Then you meant diffusion, not osmosis. The plant at Cronulla (the STP nearest the proposed location) treats the effluent to tertiary level, and that was why I was talking about the tertiary treated effluent, rather than the primary or secondary treated effluent. Yeah, the water cycle goes round - and some minute amount of effluent ends up in our dams - but that's why we treat the water from our dams.

It still seems that there are health concerns related to drinking tertiary treated effluent, though. I'm not sure how much of that is just a precaution and how much has been scientifically tested.