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Hi, im very interested in bionics, neuroscience etc. I was wondering if I would need to do an electrical engineering/mechatronics degree aswell as medicine or could i just do medicine or just do engineering? Thanks guys!
 

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Holy Crap!!.. tats a lot of work..
most ppl just do a MBBS.. Honours... then PhD

Do a MBBS or BMBS or BMed for medicine..
this really is more about patient contact and interaction whilst applying the art of Clinical reasoning and skill under time pressures

then a BSc (Hons) or an BMedSc (Hons) or equivalent in neuroscience..
This is research component..

to do more physics a BEng or MEng is handy
see Dr Karl Kruszelnicki... hes a good example of this..

to be honest u dun need the medical degree if ure not interested in applying clinical skills.. else its goin to be the bane of ure life and ull hate it.. oh.. and ull flunk :)

remember Medicine = BMedSc + Clinical Practice/Application (3 yrs worth)
 

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A medical science degree maybe, or advanced science?
 

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Yes, but im also interested in the patient side also, im not sure how far i will get with this :p Most of the researchers i've been looking at have a mbbs, but i cant find out what else they have done. I think they may have done this in their phd or something, but they're american so maybe the degree structure is different.
 

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no the MBBS is changing.. it use to be more research/science focus.. and its just not hte same any more..
cos medicine is becoming massive...

i dun think its the same... but usualli its cos they dun need the physics side much or they pick it up as they work ..
 

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Then you're probably looking at mb bs, then phd, and working as a clinician/researcher.
 

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+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:
no the MBBS is changing.. it use to be more research/science focus.. and its just not hte same any more..
cos medicine is becoming massive...

i dun think its the same... but usualli its cos they dun need the physics side much or they pick it up as they work ..
I think what im talking about will probably be phd work or specialisation?

edit :Thanks shafqat.
 

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MBBS PhD is wat ure looking at..

on an interesting note... NUS (singapore) has a MBBS/PhD for 9-10 yrs.. :)
 

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Usyd has a new combined science/MB BS/ PhD program lasting 10 years.
 

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MBBS is 5-7 years, PhD is 2 years? Is that correct?

shafqat said:
Usyd has a new combined science/MB BS/ PhD program lasting 10 years.
Bit long plus 99.95 is tough hurdle.
 

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USyd with a PhD????? how can they do tat?... can u get us the info?

MBBS is 5-6 yrs
PhD is 3-4 yrs...

normally u need at least 3 yrs of work experience... but Med students are given so many concessions for these things
 

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sikeveo said:
MBBS is 5-7 years, PhD is 2 years? Is that correct?


Bit long plus 99.95 is tough hurdle.
Under exceptional circumstances a PhD may be 24 months but most are around 4 years full-time. I'm sure with the nature of medical research itself, 2 years is just too short for most.
 

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best bet for you is to apply for BEng(Biomed) at UNSW or USyd and then you wouldnt have to do medicine afterwards. If you're not interested in clinical applications of medicine then you're probably wasting your time pursuing a medical degree.
 

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+Po1ntDeXt3r+ said:
2-3 yrs unis normally confer a MD or a DSc for 1-2
Nah, PhD (Med) or PhD (Sc). MD and DSc are normally in recognition of huge contribution to the field (through peer review of published opera) or honoris causa.
 

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Yeah you are right about MD. I was a bit distracted when I typed that, forgot about the PG courses here (it was 0300). :)
 

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Well regarding the Usyd course thing - well 3 years for the undergraduate science degree, 1 year for honours (possibly), then 4 years for MBBS is probably the most standard route. However, there is the opportunity to take 2 years out after having completed the first half of the MBBS degree, to fastrack a PhD, before completing the MBBS degree over the next 2 years. Basically, you get a lot out of a 10 year sojourn at uni :)
 

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