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SashatheMan said:
i found some guy posting this
hahahah... No the whole point is they have land and are refusing to set up a peace plan with he arabs... so lets switch the points here.. if i claim that rome (prominent religious significance) is actually mine? would we be letting me anytime soon get that land? or if the chinese say that america is in fact theirs? it has been documated that they explored the american continent before the english?
 

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SashatheMan said:
its not a matter of would christians do the same. Christians already showed that they can dislike sometihng and be civilized about it. there have been many things done about jesus and the virgin mary , that christians if they watned to , could start a riot for.
you are not stating that the pictures were extremely offensive and that is what the riot is about.... not to metion that in islam in is not permitted to draw any prophets mohammed, moses, jesus anyone..
 

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hahahah... No the whole point is they have land and are refusing to set up a peace plan with he arabs
I agree, which is why they've never talked with Palestinian leaders and have yet to even consider pulling out of gaza. oh wait....

or if the chinese say that america is in fact theirs? it has been documated that they explored the american continent before the english?
there is some evidence that indicates they might've reached the west coast, but not explored much. they also never staked no claim to it. english was also slow in the uptake in reaching america
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Might is right. If you have the power to hold the land (diplomaticaly/miltarily) then you have the right to the land.

That simple.
thats actually i good way of looking at it...
but this only applies to independant countries, Israel is a dependant state
 

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Sonic said:
you are not stating that the pictures were extremely offensive and that is what the riot is about.... not to metion that in islam in is not permitted to draw any prophets mohammed, moses, jesus anyone..
I dont consider them offensive.some of then dont even have a message or anytihng offensive in them, others have a funny message in them.

for example the one where you see muhmmad with his eyes covered by a black rectangle, and in the background you see, two women who are covered head to tow in black except the rectangle area around the eyes. It just shows you the contract of what islam doesnt allow. was a very good way of putting it.

the bomb on the turbin, was not really a humurous cartoon, imo its just an exaguration of the amount of terrorists islam produces. it makes sence.

Islam might not permit to draw them, but western secular governemnts do. If you cant tollerate the images, egnore them. thats it. We are not all following islamic law.
 
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davin said:
I agree, which is why they've never talked with Palestinian leaders and have yet to even consider pulling out of gaza. oh wait....


there is some evidence that indicates they might've reached the west coast, but not explored much. they also never staked no claim to it. english was also slow in the uptake in reaching america
typical.. americanised media mule
 

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thats actually i good way of looking at it...
but this only applies to independant countries, Israel is a dependant state
I don't see how so.
Isreal has been able to garner support from the americans etc in order to assist in their survival... therefore they have the right.
 

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Sonic said:
thats actually i good way of looking at it...
but this only applies to independant countries, Israel is a dependant state
well, the arab countries are using weaponry from europe, the us, and russia, and they woudln't have any money if not for commerce with the west, so how do you define independant or dependant?
 

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typical.. americanised media mule
how so? israel did pull out of gaza, isn't that giving up land? there were numerious negotiations with arafat.

just what makes me an americanised media mule?
 

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HotShot said:
I think they would call themselves australian, if the media didnt single them out.



Its wrong to be discriminatory regardless of the situation. You know as result of this discrimination, it has most likely the probable reason ffor the cronulla riots. BY using "middle easterm", "arab" etc, ur generalising and thus proclaiming the entire community is like that, which is completely wrong.

Either the media should abolish this, or be equal. Its not majority of the population, its way to discriminate. ITs not necessary to say "middle eastern", if they are australian. Australian are australians regardless of colour or appearance.


But, the point with the Sydney gang rapes was that the perpatrators were MAKING RACE AN ISSUE. So it's just as relevant as mentioning that the Cronulla riots involved white people going after lebanese people. It's because their is a racist aspect to both situations.
 

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SashatheMan said:
omg i just found some cartoons about this situation that are so much funnier then those other 12.

lets forget about them and concentrate on these

http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/main.asp

Some of those are pretty funny. And some of them are disturbing because they might very well be true.

Anyway, can you imagine the reaction of those countries if they get a look at some of these cartoons.
 

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davin said:
how so? israel did pull out of gaza, isn't that giving up land? there were numerious negotiations with arafat.

just what makes me an americanised media mule?
well its typical that u have not stated that they actually did that for their own protection and not in the interests of the arabs or anyone else for that matter
 

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Sonic said:
well its typical that u have not stated that they actually did that for their own protection and not in the interests of the arabs or anyone else for that matter
you mean like how the arab regions support for palestinian refugees is only used as a political tool that they can weild against Israel?

i never said that they were doing things out of the kindness of their heart or something like that, but your claim was that they've been refusing to set up a peace plan with the arabs. they definitly have tried, even though its not what the arabs want. then again, many want every jew out of israel, which includes those that lived in the area in the first place.

you've also not stated that originally, the un offered the area to split between palestinians and israelis and the palestinians said no. but i'm not busy calling you a terrorist sympathiser thats just a parrot for the most extreme views of islamic fundamentalism and anti-semitism
 

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oooh...ok, so its a thing about women being irrational.
 

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