Muslims slit daughter's throat over assumption (2 Viewers)

[0o0]

did i say he was "implementing the teachings if Islam"? no. so why would i want to prove otherwise? so what if i said he was a muslim? i only pointed it out to show how some muslims can do some crazy things, which was the orignal point of this thread. why you make such a big deal about it?

 

[Kwayera]

With regards to the Japanese 'honour suicide' ritual of seppuku - it isn't 'induced' by an outside person, like in the Snickers ad. The Japanese people take honour very seriously - VERY seriously - and most Japanese, probably even now, would rather kill themselves than bring dishonour to their name.

Hence seppuku. It's SUICIDE to relieve one's own shame, not murder masquerading as suicide.

 

[mr EaZy]

With regards to the Japanese 'honour suicide' ritual of seppuku - it isn't 'induced' by an outside person, like in the Snickers ad. The Japanese people take honour very seriously - VERY seriously - and most Japanese, probably even now, would rather kill themselves than bring dishonour to their name.

Hence seppuku. It's SUICIDE to relieve one's own shame, not murder masquerading as suicide.

Thats right! Japan has a very high suicide rate... but a lot of it is now by reason of isolation experienced by the youths engrossed in excessively materialistic ways (you should have seen them on dateline! )

seppuku and harrakirri are variations of similar acts. seppuku is disembowelling, harrakirri might be the same thing

 

[mr EaZy]

well heres a new article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051225/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_honor_killings

doesnt say but he's probably muslim

its amazing how its all the same story dressed up in different countries, different peoples etc! I mean Get over it!

i like it how this article states at the top: 13 minutes ago

 

[somechick]

the man actually did the world a favour. With each islamic women having 9 children, and each of those children having another 9.. Imagine how much space in the world he saved.

Besides, she was a whore who kept exposing her feet in public! 13 year old infidel! How dare she displease Allah.

Nice one...
Its strange that nobody gives a stuff about these incidents in Australia under the hands of 'white' men.
What about the morons that aren't classified by their 'religious devotion' who go and burn women alive and leave them for death in the west? eg Lauren Huxley:

http://smh.com.au/news/national/arrest-made-over-woman-left-for-dead/2005/12/01/1133422053800.html

A man who plays god kills prostitute:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...shed-prostitute/2005/08/18/1123958160714.html

A man beats his wife to death:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353181328.html

joe korp:
JOE Korp was thrown into the media spotlight when his lover Tania Herman tried to kill his wife Maria by strangling her in the Korp family's garage.
Maria was found days later clinging to life in the boot of her own car. She died in hospital six months later, despite a desperate bid by Joe to stop her life support being switched off.
The salacious detail exposed in court - sex orgies, swingers parties and goat sacrifices - captivated the country.
The crime saw Herman sentenced to nine years' in jail and Joe facing a murder charge - which he avoided by hanging himself.

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ALL of these are examples of atrocities commited by criminals. But you know, all these dont matter because they're not muslim. They are of the un-classified race, the standard to which everyone else is measured as the alien 'other'. Double standards....

Fuck me. Any religion which has followers that do shit like that should be, well, reviewed (fucking banned and all it's texts burnt) or something. That's pretty sick.

Why is it that you start every single sentence with the words 'fuck me'? Some issues there.
And what the hell are you on about? GIVE ME A VERSE IN THE QURAN THAT says every sick patriarchial man without a brain should go an slit their daughter's necks.

You guys only focus on your hatred and ignorance of Islam. You never ever listen to our explainations. Its always about the latest controversy. I feel terribly sorry for the Asians of Cabramatta during that whole decade of anti-asian sentiments. I wonder which unfortunate race the next 'yellow perils' will be after the muslims.

 

[mr EaZy]

okay so with regards to this story:

The punishment for killing someone is death.

Theres nothing honorable in killing someone, probably some lawyer invented it to get a lenient sentence or something or probably the western media invented it to make it seem as if islam tolerates killings done in its name or some rubbish like that- because this notion of honor killings has no place in arabic newspapers- just look up aljazeera!

so i went to aljazeera.com and typed up honor killing and this is the only appropriate article that appeared:

Soldier testifies shooting of injured Iraqi "honourable"
3/30/2005 4:30:00 PM

U.S. Army Captain Rogelio "Roger" Maynulet is in court for the killing of an unarmed, wounded Iraqi testified the shooting was an "honourbale" thing to do.


Someone who kills another unjustly is more than likely to go to hell (im 99% certain but im not an expert on islam) from an islamic point of view. And when any punishment is justified: You have to go through a thing called [ Due Process ] Which means that the courts have to get involved , go over the evidence and why he did it (like steal during a famine ) etc. it involves a thing called natural justice- being able to defend oneself.

People taking the law into their own hands: its not acceptable - in any society and it is this behaviour that leads to anarchy like what we saw with the cronulla riots. And this behaviour is anti-islamic. There is also debate whether these muslim extremists are actually muslims at all! just because they say they are and pray five times a day and stuff it doesnt mean anything if they have stuffed up in their beliefs - but thats too technical to get into here.

But the bottom line is: Islam comes with a court system that is buit to handle social problems - when people take actions outside of the courts and the law into their own hands- that is wrong by anyones standards, that is haram or forbidden and sinful in islam and it is what brings people to hell

i have nothing as a muslim to stick up for this individual or any other individuals who choose to follow a certain path...

 

[physician]

somechick, none of the above murders you mentioned, had anything to do with religion.

And whose to say the guy killed his daughter out of religious beliefs (i.e Islamic beliefs)? No one has yet succeded in pointing out where his actions are justified in the Quran or Ahadith (Actions and sayings of the Prophet (peace be upon him)).

it is worrying when people take religion so seriously that they kill their own 13 year old daughter on suspicion of having slept with someone.

Uve just ignored almost every single post made in this thread!

How can the guy be taking religion so seriously, when the religion permits no such action being taken against anyone, especialy not for the reason this guy had?

 

[Sonic]

Muslims (i assume you're one) come here, try to bully us out of our own country.. and then get all scared when we have a rally at a beach. Well you're lucky that a wog is the premier, and a Leb is the governer, which resulted in laws (which were basically oppressing the whites more then the muslims) being passed within 48 hours, with little fuss.. Yet when it comes to laws against islamic terrorism, it's 4 years past the largest terrorist attack, and the pussy left wing parties are still bickering about the "dangerous" nature of the anti-terrorist laws.

yes u fucking idiot because the laws are concering INTERNATIONAL objectives the riots are a NATIONAL concern... oh yeah laws that were passed are more discrimminating to aussies than us lebs... yeah right that 'll be the day idiot seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. when lebs are pulled over and searched ust for their apperance that makes it more biased towards wogs?? yeah sure

 

[hiphophooray123]

Nice one...
Its strange that nobody gives a stuff about these incidents in Australia under the hands of 'white' men.
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no its not strange if i found an article like that i would post it here...and 'muslim' DOES NOT imply skin colour. I hate people that think everything is fucking racism or everything is a conspiracy and implies hidden traces of racism fucking hide behind education, not words such as 'racism' and 'generalisation' its getting old and very very fucking annoying.

 

[somechick]

Yep, so the day when the word racism and generalisation disappears the day when imperialism will forever rule, even after decolonisation.

Did you not read what i emphasised? Whiteness is the un-marked classification. It is never emphasised in news stories the religious affiliations of a non-muslim/ethnic person. Just look at the second story i posted.
It is not emphasised of the ethnic criminal's mental state or whatever social/political issues drove them to commit such an act, but their religion is to blame, and this is always the prime factor. Dont you guys ever tire of hearing the same crap being thrown at you? I guess the juice is all in the blame factor.

Those examples I showed you emphasise the extent to which the similiar incidents occur in Australia, not under the justification of religious affiliation but by other factors. This moron of a person who decides to kill his own flesh and blood is a sick man. There is no justification in Islam for this. But of course, nobody will listen to this. It's always the condemnation of the "other".

 

[Generator]

yes u fucking idiot because the laws are concering INTERNATIONAL objectives the riots are a NATIONAL concern... oh yeah laws that were passed are more discrimminating to aussies than us lebs... yeah right that 'll be the day idiot seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. when lebs are pulled over and searched ust for their apperance that makes it more biased towards wogs?? yeah sure

He was talking about the recent laws passed by the State government alone (ie, those explicitly dealing with the recent 'riots'), not those being pushed by the federal government. Also, why is it that you are assuming that such people are being pulled over given their ethnic appearance? Couldn't it be the manner in which they conduct themselves in public?

ps, there's nothing to be gained by playing the whinging minority card - both the most recent 'riot' laws and the anti-terror laws being pushed by the federal government impinge upon the personal liberties of all citisens.

 

[Gummy_bear]

1. Iemma is a wog.
2. lebs are generally the ones comitting crime.[/QUOTE]

Please show some statistics that prove your second point.

Unfortunatley in life there are so many different people wh o interperate many scriptures differently.
I dont fully understnad all of the muslam religion, so i wont make any assumptions.
The bible has been interpreted so many different ways, such as a verse in the bibles that says, and im not stating it word for word, but basically, it says, 'it is a sin for one man to lie with another' this coud be interpreted as gay sex or as simply lying next to each other.
People just interperate things differently, and did this father actually say that he killed his daughter in the name of religion? unless he did, you cant be sure it is true.
All i have to say about this is that there are extremists in every religion and people seem to judje that religion based on these extremists. It happens everywhere, many people think that all catholics are old fuddy duddys who condem almost everything. lol. But its not true.

 

[danieljarvis]

could have sworn this was 2005..

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/12/24/1135353182398.html?from=top5

"About 4,000 people, mostly women, have been killed in conservative rural areas of Pakistan in recent years in the name of protecting family honour.

Many others have been raped or burnt with acid under codes of tribal justice."

 

[SashatheMan]

honor killings . may peace be upon you

 

[xeuyrawp]

You guys are just racist! It's not the majority -- it's not the majority!!!

 

[SashatheMan]

your just blind. a blind majority of you not minority

 

[veterandoggy]

u guys are obsessed with yourselves.

it says nothing about islam.

 

[danieljarvis]

i didnt say anything about islam..

but i think it's clear that some aspects of some cultures needs to be.. ahh.. modernised.

 

[veterandoggy]

Please show some statistics that prove your second point.

Unfortunatley in life there are so many different people wh o interperate many scriptures differently.
I dont fully understnad all of the muslam religion, so i wont make any assumptions.
The bible has been interpreted so many different ways, such as a verse in the bibles that says, and im not stating it word for word, but basically, it says, 'it is a sin for one man to lie with another' this coud be interpreted as gay sex or as simply lying next to each other.
People just interperate things differently, and did this father actually say that he killed his daughter in the name of religion? unless he did, you cant be sure it is true.
All i have to say about this is that there are extremists in every religion and people seem to judje that religion based on these extremists. It happens everywhere, many people think that all catholics are old fuddy duddys who condem almost everything. lol. But its not true.

it happens in every religion, but aetheists/agnostics love us, so they only find out about stuff involving islam

 

[veterandoggy]

i didnt say anything about islam..

but i think it's clear that some aspects of some cultures needs to be.. ahh.. modernised.

all you need to do is read the posts after yours and you would realise that i didnt include you in it.