Woah, a bit harsh on goan_crazy.
AsyLum said:
NSW doesn't have under-18 shows? I've seen at least 4 held at the Annandale, 3 at the Metro and several through smaller venues around the west. Now if we consider all-ages, there are a plethora of those around...
Ska, rockabilly, punk rock, are NOT dead styles of music. You're implying that these styles a) make less money, b) aren't producing as many quality albums c) no one is taking them up anymore. We'll probably never have the same success as we did with bands such as The Offspring, NOFX, Blink, Pennywise, etc in the future, but im sure that bands such as Unwritten Law and Millencolin still pull in more crowds than your average 'post-punk' band. The majority of bands still draw heavily from the early 90's/late 80s punk bands, and this whole screamo/emo thing is just a guise to protect 'musicians' who can't write any other lyrics other than those which involve breaking up with their girlfriends.
Legally there are no under 18 shows in NSW (unlike in Victoria). They may be plugged as under 18 shows, but even this is VERY rare. They're All-ages shows.
I'm not interested in getting into a debate about it, as whether you like it or not, everything is subjective and anything you say is YOUR opinion.
But when I say dead I mean b) and c). I'm not saying there are no bands creating that kind of music, I just think that less and less people are caring. UL and Millencolin are probably the best of the bunch, and personally, I think their best is long past them. Speaking of Unwritten Law, most people would agree their best release was their self-titled album, which was mostly written about break-ups and relationships.
In terms of skinny jeans...they're just a clothing item. Punk kids did the whole piercing/safety pin thing in the 70's/80's. If you don't like, don't wear it...wear baggy shorts or dress like Rancid fans, whatever. Live and let live. My comment is that there is a number of music fans who are choosing to dress in that manner. I've noticed this at Bright Eyes, Yeah yeah yeahs, Sparta, The Grates, Gyroscope, I Killed The Prom Queen, and all sorts of other punk/alternative gigs...most of them 18+ ones at the A'dale, The Marquee, Manning, Gaelic, Metro, et al. In terms of dipshittedness...I've personally found, in gigs and in life, it doesn't come from any sterotyped person.
I've never seen anyone use/practice kung-fu moves...though if I did, they might find they've been accidentally knocked over. Unless they were really big...hehe.
Real emo (Fugazi/Sunny Day Real Estate) however is nothing like the current stuff thats passed off as emo:
http://www.fourfa.com/
There's a hilarious, tongue-in-cheek section of fashion tips on that website. "anorexic thinness - veganism helps here".