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  • A load of codswallop. OBVIOUSLY why wouldn't chicks want a nice guy?

    Votes: 35 26.5%
  • Definitely true. A true jerk is the way to go

    Votes: 25 18.9%
  • Hmmm i'm going to sit on the fence. Something in between

    Votes: 33 25.0%
  • No i didn't read it because i am a lazy motherf*cker. I'm also a troll

    Votes: 39 29.5%

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bobness said:
And so that's where we get to the heart of it. You SAY you want a nice guy. But in reality you'll go out and date those jerks and assholes and adlays and whatever else there are out there apart from the nice guys.
i reckon thats the best thing written in this thread!!

i think the part where ppl talk about pricks treating girls like dirt is bullshit. just control urself and know when to treat her nicely..

KeypadSDM. if u thikn thats shit try being a nice guy. its when NO girls at all say ur hot.

come to think of it, i have never seen a 'nice guy' dating a hot girl. only hideous girls........
every hot girl ive seen that isnt single is dating a prick/asshole especially the wog guys :p
i think it comes down to this- nice guys are nice because they aren't as confident around girls as the pricks. girls can sense a lack of confidence 10x better than guys themselves and that to them is a major turn off.
 
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well in the end do you really want to be Hot? in 50 years time u sure as hell wont be, and dont say you can get plastic surgery because chances are you will end up looking like wacko jacko.

pretty sad but true a heap of nice or "decent" girls go our with jerk offs cos they seem cool or nice but in the end it will be the guys who stay nice forever who get the truly decent girls.

but if youre just out for a lay i guess it doesnt matter either way.
 
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Komaticom said:
If some aspects of being nice isn't 100% natural to one's personality, isn't he just putting up an act?

That's obviously not the case for me because my acting sucks, according to everyone.
well i meant comes natural like for example, some people can never bring themselves to be nice at all to people. they're born as total assholes, whereas others are born with the tend to be nice, or others are just neutral. how far you extended depends on your personality. 2 nice people exist, one opens doors for women the other doesnt; they're still both nice but one opens doors, he doesnt do it for an act he just does it
catch my drift
 
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Skimmed the thread, I'm astounded by the bitterness once again :)

In response to all the people claiming they used to be nice till things didn't go their way: I don't really think that the way you behave should be dictated by how people respond to it, and if you stop being a "nice guy" because you don't have any luck with girls, then I'd suggest that you're not a "nice guy" at all.

Alternatively if you're in this situation, maybe if you're such a genuinely nice, caring, sensitive lad like you say you are, the reason you're having no luck with girls is because you're going after the wrong ones. The fact that you're a decent person isn't going to make you attractive to all girls, as it's pretty obvious that that's not a quality which everyone values equally. The idea in relationships afterall is valuing the other person for what they are, obviously girls who want a coolcat boyfriend with a flash car, spare money and bigtime street cred aren't going to care that you're a champion, and you're a moron if you expect them to. On the other hand though, there are people around, astounding as it may sound, who value relationships with people who treat them well, and this is where treating people properly is likely to aid you. Again though, this is something of a fringe benefit, as being "nice" to people isn't something that you do with a particular purpose, as my esteemed comrade Casmira is attempting to point out just now.

You take your pick, you either be yourself and let things happen the way they do, knowing that you've done the right thing by yourself, or you somehow effect a change and become an asshole to win at the women game. Personally I think one of those options sounds incredibly sensible, and the other incredibly stupid, but to each their own.
 
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i think you elaborated further on what i was trying to say yes. if i was my true true true self, then i would be a very selfish person but i hate that quality of me so i tend to be as genereous as possible to people i care (friends, family). but yeh some people can take it the wrong way. i have no idea why i sat there listening to womens problems, even when i didnttry to get into their pants something compelled me to listen, but the consequence was me constantly being thrown on these "friends" ladders.
but i do act myself and that consequence is there's 2 types of people basically that i find at uni, work, when i was at school; those that hate me alot, and those that like me alot. i cannot find anyone who thinks neutral of me

i dont know whyi just went off topic with my last sentance i think its something i figured out today, i had to let it out :p
 

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Pace_T said:
a very similar thing happened 2 me a couple of years ago
it was then that i changed from a nice guy and became a prick/asshole/cocky guy
nice guys come last
Casmira said:
i like your reasoning, im already starting to turn into one
Casmira said:
nice guys never win
Both of u may think u were nice but deep inside u never were and this goes out to others who claim that they are nice one day and totally flip an hour later.

If u were really nice then nothing absolutely nothing can turn u into a nasty person other than something really traumatic event in ur life that may have changed u, but u most definately can't turn from being nice into a nasty prick just to get more lucky with girls.

If u were really a nice person, then this is instilled in ur character and personality. U can't just choose to be nice or be nasty, u naturally are one. Being nice means u be nice to everyone, u want the best for everyone, u love seeing others succeed even if at the same time u have come last.

In my opinion, a person's character and personality are 40% derived from birth, 40% derived from their upbringing and 20% on their social environment such as their friends.

Why do u think so many lebs are such dickheads and troublemakers? I surely don't think all of them are like that straight out of birth, but it's because of their upbringing and the people they socialise with. After all, their parents were young once too and if they were idiots, so will their kids, ie: "like father, like son"...
 

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genavania said:
well in the end do you really want to be Hot? in 50 years time u sure as hell wont be, and dont say you can get plastic surgery because chances are you will end up looking like wacko jacko.

pretty sad but true a heap of nice or "decent" girls go our with jerk offs cos they seem cool or nice but in the end it will be the guys who stay nice forever who get the truly decent girls.

but if youre just out for a lay i guess it doesnt matter either way.
sluts only realise that such guys are jerks once their flaps are wide enough for a truck.

also, 'jerks' are likely to be dead or longtrm unemployed in 10 yars time.

unless theyre rich.
 

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ogmzergrush said:
Skimmed the thread, I'm astounded by the bitterness once again :)

In response to all the people claiming they used to be nice till things didn't go their way: I don't really think that the way you behave should be dictated by how people respond to it, and if you stop being a "nice guy" because you don't have any luck with girls, then I'd suggest that you're not a "nice guy" at all.

Alternatively if you're in this situation, maybe if you're such a genuinely nice, caring, sensitive lad like you say you are, the reason you're having no luck with girls is because you're going after the wrong ones. The fact that you're a decent person isn't going to make you attractive to all girls, as it's pretty obvious that that's not a quality which everyone values equally. The idea in relationships afterall is valuing the other person for what they are, obviously girls who want a coolcat boyfriend with a flash car, spare money and bigtime street cred aren't going to care that you're a champion, and you're a moron if you expect them to. On the other hand though, there are people around, astounding as it may sound, who value relationships with people who treat them well, and this is where treating people properly is likely to aid you. Again though, this is something of a fringe benefit, as being "nice" to people isn't something that you do with a particular purpose, as my esteemed comrade Casmira is attempting to point out just now.

You take your pick, ou either be yourself and let things happen the way they do, knowing that you've done the right thing by yourself, or you somehow effect a change and become an asshole to win at the women game. Personally I think one of those options sounds incredibly sensible, and the other incredibly stupid, but to each their own.
I agree with u, especially the sentences highlighted in bold.
 

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Far_Q said:
Why do u think so many lebs are such dickheads and troublemakers? I surely don't think all of them are like that straight out of birth, but it's because of their upbringing and the people they socialise with. After all, their parents were young once too and if they were idiots, so will their kids, ie: "like father, like son"...
You're treading on very thin ice there. Are you yourself trying to generalise that lebs are all wankers but only because of their 'social conditioning'? OMG U-Leh.. you're like so lucky bro that i don't have a souped up car and have 30 cousins i can call up to take you down at lidcombe tomorrow. F*** yeah I can generalise too.

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Methinks iambored that nice guys are normally average looking and so they identify themselves as nice because its the main thing going for them. I don't reckon nice guys should ever be of those (rare) types who need self-validation from their chick friends or otherwise. Its funny how there's quite a few out there who identify themselves as this and so in effect are (IMHO) proclaiming their lack of a backbone and desire to constantly change their agendas to make others happy.

However it is perfectly alright to do kind actions. BUT nice guys shouldn't make a deal out of it and especially should not do it to make others happy. For what personal reward is that? A truly nice person performs these gestures from their heart and receives validation from themselves (and their own sense of integrity) for this.
 

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bobness said:
You're treading on very thin ice there. Are you yourself trying to generalise that lebs are all wankers but only because of their 'social conditioning'? OMG U-Leh.. you're like so lucky bro that i don't have a souped up car and have 30 cousins i can call up to take you down at lidcombe tomorrow. F*** yeah I can generalise too.
Never have I said that all lebs are troublemakers, but for the ones that are, it's due to their upbringing and the people they associate with during their lives.

What good have u ever heard of a lebanese person contribute to the community? Everything u see on the streets and the news are of lebs who think they are above all and think their above the law. Are u leb?...if u are then ur response is so ridiculously typical of a leb, do u think violence can end everything?...do u always have to rely on ur whole fuking lebanese community to seek revenge and shit?...

I dare to say that if u have a homeless 1 year old lebanese baby, he/she later on gets adopted by ur typical suburban aussie/asian/european family, that baby would be brought up 100 times better than lebanese parents IN GENERAL. Now of course there are exceptions, but in general lebanese parents bring up their kids the wrong way, exposing them to have no morals at all.

I bet if I were brought up hanging around lebanese parents or lebanese friends, I would probably have a extrememly high chance of being a petty criminal. But I am so glad that I will never find out if that would be true.
 

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This is a moot point which I will not be entering into because you seem to have already used the straw man technique.

And no I am not leb.

Hmm and to add to what azzie said:

"we want a lady in the street but a freak in the bed" some rapper who's name eludes me

:uhhuh:
 
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Far_Q said:
Both of u may think u were nice but deep inside u never were and this goes out to others who claim that they are nice one day and totally flip an hour later.

If u were really nice then nothing absolutely nothing can turn u into a nasty person other than something really traumatic event in ur life that may have changed u, but u most definately can't turn from being nice into a nasty prick just to get more lucky with girls.

If u were really a nice person, then this is instilled in ur character and personality. U can't just choose to be nice or be nasty, u naturally are one. Being nice means u be nice to everyone, u want the best for everyone, u love seeing others succeed even if at the same time u have come last.

In my opinion, a person's character and personality are 40% derived from birth, 40% derived from their upbringing and 20% on their social environment such as their friends.

Why do u think so many lebs are such dickheads and troublemakers? I surely don't think all of them are like that straight out of birth, but it's because of their upbringing and the people they socialise with. After all, their parents were young once too and if they were idiots, so will their kids, ie: "like father, like son"...
far from it, i always get called a nice guy. you can very easily repent from something when you perform good and all you get is shit shovelled in your face, im human and can tolerate a good (almost 18 years) of this crap, not an angel or diety and eventually i will give up.
 

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