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Nihongo Dake (dispute resolved, thread re-opened) (2 Viewers)
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Takuya
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lol owachatta
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Takuya, stop laughing at people's Japanese. There are a few points to your extravagant yet mildly odd English I've tastefully ignored. 
Takuya
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Remember, we must be nice to speakers of all levels
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And Takuya, for crying out loud, it's only a single mora! Transliteration comes with more difficulty to those who have become accustomed to kana. Anyway, don't make me correct your English
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Takuya
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Hah. I say gaijin as you say Jap.
Takuya
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Despite poor Japanese character handling by this forum, your written Japanese is OK.
However there are some things which understanding the language itself will not teach you about Japanese.
Without resorting to debate, the term gaijin is a precise term used to describe Westerners, not English people coming to Aborigine's Australian land, etc. Mind you, in the Japanese language, it is not as insulting as the word 'Jap' in the Western language.
So here is the deal. You call me Jap. I call you gaijin.
There are many worse terms than 'gaijin', so maybe it is more than fair.
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What I meant was that in Australia, with that exception, we are all immigrants in some way.
Anyway, I wouldn't call you Jap, and I'd like you to reciprocate by giving me (though there are some who use the word in an abusive capacity to which you should arguably not refrain) the same courtesy, and not succumbing to the fallacy you call ꊇ.
Anyway, I wouldn't call you Jap, and I'd like you to reciprocate by giving me (though there are some who use the word in an abusive capacity to which you should arguably not refrain) the same courtesy, and not succumbing to the fallacy you call ꊇ.
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I'm not going to try and battle you on home turf, but please don't confuse people on the use of gaijin. Obviously in colloquial Japanese the term applies to non-Japanese (specifically westerners, one of which jogloran is not ) but the formal (and more appropriate meaning) is still "one from a foreign place", rather than one of a specific background. The meaning in contemporary Japanese is currently changing but you can not say that "gaijin" no longer means "outsider", which (to put it bluntly) here you clearly are.
edit: I thought I made it clear before that none were to use the term "jap" anyway? It's roots are in wartime propaganda, it offers nothing for cultural advancement, and it's a particularly ugly sound anyway. Hence, nobody uses it anyway. (or I edit you)
) but the formal (and more appropriate meaning) is still "one from a foreign place", rather than one of a specific background. The meaning in contemporary Japanese is currently changing but you can not say that "gaijin" no longer means "outsider", which (to put it bluntly) here you clearly are. edit: I thought I made it clear before that none were to use the term "jap" anyway? It's roots are in wartime propaganda, it offers nothing for cultural advancement, and it's a particularly ugly sound anyway. Hence, nobody uses it anyway. (or I edit you)
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Oddly, it all depends on if the Japanese know you're not one of "them". When in Disneyland, I approached the entrance to a ride with my teacher. I don't look particularly asian (except perhaps for my black hair) but my teacher is Russian. So when we got to the car, the attendant spoke to me in Japanese but to Mr Serge in English. I was surprised, because it should have been very apparent as we approached that his Japanese was far superior to mine.
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