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Can a school send off fail marks for students doin the HSC to the board? say for example u get about 50% ppl failing would there mark go as a fail or will they scale that up to a pass??
Like for chemistry my final mark is 55 and im coming 22/48 that means heaps of ppl failed so would there mark go off as a fail to the board??

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Most schools scale all marks to an average of 75-85, depending on course/school.
 

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my school didnt scale any think the only marks they scaled were the trial marks..

I even got scaled down 4% in enlgish for some stupid reason to make paper 1 out of 40 marks not 45 !!! I dont see whay they just cant get a total percentage!...
 

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MedNez said:
Most schools scale all marks to an average of 75-85, depending on course/school.
Could you explain that a little?
 

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Heaven Sent said:
Can a school send off fail marks for students doin the HSC to the board? say for example u get about 50% ppl failing would there mark go as a fail or will they scale that up to a pass??
Like for chemistry my final mark is 55 and im coming 22/48 that means heaps of ppl failed so would there mark go off as a fail to the board??

Thanx alot =D
The moderating process would most likely pull up your raw school assessment marks depending on your performance in the external exam. If the school does well in the external exam, then the raw marks would moderate up to the range of marks of the school's performance. For example if the raw internal assessment average was 60 with many people below that score, then if the school's average for the external exam was 75, then the average would be lifted to match 75.
As long as you do well in the HSC exam, then the low assessment marks won't be a worry.
 

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cherryblossom said:
Could you explain that a little?
Sure. Let's say all the marks for the 2005 Physics course from your school range between 20 and 50 (I know, that's pretty impossible for a year of work, but let's be generous to demonstrate the idea).

What really matters is the rank and standard deviation between students. Having all the students squashed up in 30 marks doesn't really show how they are spaced (imagine if you had 200 students), so, the marks are all scaled up to an average. Most schools scale generously as a matter of course, so the report average is always, say, 75 for Physics. Having a standard average every year not only allows them to see the difference in students each year, but also makes things alot more consistant. Having wildly fluctuating averages doesn't say much for a school, since you can't then compare anything.

But back to our example. Scaling to an average of 75 now puts all the students marks between 85 and 30. That standard deviation shows how the students are spaced relative to each other alot clearer than previously. So this is submitted to the Board of Studies.

You all do the HSC, and your HSC exam marks (aligned) are between 50 and 82. So, your school marks are moderated using rank & standard deviation, to be in the same range of 50 as the bottom mark, and 82 as the highest. So, really, it doesn't matter if your school marks hard or easy, it's all readjusted in the end to compensate.

If in our example, all the students just sucked at Physics, this would show through in the HSC when the range of marks is still in 30-50, so all the school marks will be scaled back down to this range. If you were all marked really hard however, and your exam marks are ALL between 90-100, then your school marks are pulled up.

I think that's answered your question. It gets a lot more in depth but that's how it was explained to me as a simple model, so that's about the best I can do.
 

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ive been getting real crap in 2u maths does that mean they will send the mark as a pass? i failed most of my test (passed 1)im ranked 21/28
 

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HSC pie

Wot really matters is your overall rank and how ur skool performed overall as a group. Getting below 50 doesnt neccesarily mean u failed. If ur class does better in da hsc as my physics teachers puts it u'll get a bigger slice of the pie. And if u they do worse a smaller piece of da pie. So if ur up da top of the ranks u'll get da biggest piece of the pie ,but dat slice can get bigger or smaller depending on how ur group go's in da hsc.
mmmmmmm pie
 

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My school sends in assessment marks from 1 (last place) through to 100 (1st place). It doesn't matter, they know what they're doing, k? ;)
 

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What Mednez has said makes no real difference. BOS will just reverse the process. It is also what BOS is telling schools not to do. They are saying to use thw whole range of marks. It was what was traditionally done under the old system. Also what goes on reports is not always what is sent in to the BOS.
 

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my school stuffed up my marks for english, especially for english, each english teachers marked each set of papers example: one teacher does all the area of study section, the other does module b etc etc and my english teacher 'who happens to be a total jerk because he is a new english teacher since my old teacher left during year 12 and our class fell off hard because of his lame intelligence in teacher the class instead of making the class do colouring posters and year 7-ish english activities to make his class bright up, he stuffed up nearly over half the grades marks because he didnt know how to mark the modules etc, and this other english teacher thought that her class was totally marked wrong and her 'favourite student did not end up coming first in the grade' so she decided to remark her class only again which made it more odd and her favourite student end up getting the top spot of the grade in english and most of the students in her class end up beating everyone else for some reason, most of her students end up skipping her class and havent put an effort in doing work or turning up in class and end up getting a better mark suddenly compared to those who do their work in class etc and ofcourse that stuffed up everyone's marks including mine because she marked it again and so on........
 

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