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if you really still want to prevent being dragged by your cohort (which is unlikely if youre smart enough to be at the top of your current school), you can move up to a selective school or high ranking private school (both are pretty much same thing in terms of academic environment, private has access to better resources but they perform similarly). but be warned, since your moving in y11 youll drop significantly in terms of your performance bc everythign in high ranking schools gets harder and more competitive and its unlikely that if you were like 1st in your current school that youll still be ranked up top in a higher ranked school.

also foreign unis actually care more abt extracurriculars and stuff but once you get to a really academically motivated school they have a lot less of an emphasis on extracurriculars in y12 and stuff so that might not be the best fit for you
Not exactly true for the last to parras. Private schools (GPS ones at least) have a significant emphasis on cocurriculars, to the point where they force students undertaking programs. In the case they don't attend before exams (fyi these programs are run after school on mondays), they can be vulnerable to lose %ages out of their hsc exams. Same goes for sport if not attending trainings or saturday sports. There are also much more international application assistance in these schools (mine especially for some reason runs programs specialising specifically on just this and have found heaps of success, getting students into oxford, cambridge, etc). In terms of clubs, heaps are available, and you are given the opportunities to put forth new ones if you have evidence students would be interested. In terms of being bogged down after moving in yr 11, I did not feel much of a huge difference moving from a 140th ranked school to a top 50. This is maybe because I switched from coed to single sex education so take this w a grain of salt.
 

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what are the benefits of being in a private school over public?
network , better access to resources, more academically inclined peers, better teachers and pastoral support and better access to opportunities and facilities. the teaching being better is evident since private schools don't necessarily take in academically gifted students at the start of year 7 but their students end up performing similar or better than those at selective schools and almost always much better than those at normal public schools.
 
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network , better access to resources, more academically inclined peers, better teachers and pastoral support and better access to opportunities and facilities. the teaching being better is evident since private schools don't necessarily take in academically gifted students at the start of year 7 but their students end up performing similar or better than those at selective schools and almost always much better than those at normal public schools.
also i dont really see the difference between a normal private school and a public school, you only start getting access to those benefits when you go to an elite private school
 

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Not exactly true for the last to parras. Private schools (GPS ones at least) have a significant emphasis on cocurriculars, to the point where they force students undertaking programs. In the case they don't attend before exams (fyi these programs are run after school on mondays), they can be vulnerable to lose %ages out of their hsc exams. Same goes for sport if not attending trainings or saturday sports. There are also much more international application assistance in these schools (mine especially for some reason runs programs specialising specifically on just this and have found heaps of success, getting students into oxford, cambridge, etc). In terms of clubs, heaps are available, and you are given the opportunities to put forth new ones if you have evidence students would be interested. In terms of being bogged down after moving in yr 11, I did not feel much of a huge difference moving from a 140th ranked school to a top 50. This is maybe because I switched from coed to single sex education so take this w a grain of salt.
mb i agree that private schools have an emphasis on cocurricular but thats not all of them i think, at least the ones in my locality dont care. also they do tend to have better cocurricular opportunities too bc public schools dont invest in that kind of thing generally. but the losing marks from

also yeah id have expected moving to an elite private school would have high success rates of getting into foreign unis and that they would actually push for that stuff bc if you go any sort of selective schools they really push for unis like usyd and unsw instead of foreign unis, so thats smth that didnt cross my mind at all. so yeah thats smth i forgot to mention

i think being bogged down really depends person to person ngl. i wasn't particularly struggling either when i moved from my old school (blacktown girls so to a top 50 fully selective school) but thats bc it was y8 and i went to tuition. but i think a lot of people that move struggle in particularly competitive cohorts when previously anything would have flied in their old school. the standard of work expected from me even in y8 was shockingly higher and i had to put in a lot more work in my new school. again that might be bc im in a selective school but yeah

in hindsight i would say to the op that yeah a private school aligns with your interests better but you could honestly do the same thing in any top 90 school if you work hard

i would do my research and see what kinds of subjects and extracurriculars i would want to do and then apply that way
 

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I know a lot of people here go to public schools but asking for a friend:

What is the atmosphere/environment like at private girls schools like Pymble Ladies College, Abbotsleigh, PLC Sydney, SCEGGS, Meriden, Queenwood, Wenona etc? Are private schools really better than public schools (not just in terms of facilities)? Would selective schools be better than private schools?
hi, Im in year 10 and I go to a public school and it is top 90. I am really wanting to get into a top uni that being over seas such as the UK or the US unis. Therefore Im going to be needing the top grades (internal and the ATAR) and as well as the support in extracurricular activities. Would moving to a private school help? if so, what ones are really good? Thanks
hey lmao i js left a selective school thi year, and am now studiyng at a private school but im moving again next yr to a higher selective school. i honestly feel like at private schools the good thing is that when it ocmes to subjects, u can choose whatver, there's rlly not restrictions here, but also keep in mind that u would have to take studies of relgion. if i had to give u a yes or no answer, i would personally say no, dont move to a privwte school. its got nice pepople but spending money on fees for a private school can be used in high quality tutoring

also important note: keep in mind, that no matter what school ur in, at the end of the day every single yr 12 nsw student sits the same hsc paper.
 
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hey lmao i js left a selective school thi year, and am now studiyng at a private school but im moving again next yr to a higher selective school. i honestly feel like at private schools the good thing is that when it ocmes to subjects, u can choose whatver, there's rlly not restrictions here, but also keep in mind that u would have to take studies of relgion. if i had to give u a yes or no answer, i would personally say no, dont move to a privwte school. its got nice pepople but spending money on fees for a private school can be used in high quality tutoring

also important note: keep in mind, that no matter what school ur in, at the end of the day every single yr 12 nsw student sits the same hsc paper.
bruh your school in a boat load of shit rn. My condolences to the kid who passed.
 

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Not exactly true for the last to parras. Private schools (GPS ones at least) have a significant emphasis on cocurriculars, to the point where they force students undertaking programs. In the case they don't attend before exams (fyi these programs are run after school on mondays), they can be vulnerable to lose %ages out of their hsc exams. Same goes for sport if not attending trainings or saturday sports. There are also much more international application assistance in these schools (mine especially for some reason runs programs specialising specifically on just this and have found heaps of success, getting students into oxford, cambridge, etc). In terms of clubs, heaps are available, and you are given the opportunities to put forth new ones if you have evidence students would be interested. In terms of being bogged down after moving in yr 11, I did not feel much of a huge difference moving from a 140th ranked school to a top 50. This is maybe because I switched from coed to single sex education so take this w a grain of salt.
i see thats one of the main reasons i want to consider going to a private school like i currently go to a top 90 public school and so thinking about going to a top 20 (private) would give me a bit of advantage in terms of ec's nd cocurriculars cause when it comes to grades and ranking i feel like that smth I have to put in the work for regardless of the school but ec's could benefit from going to a school that puts emphasis on it and has a wide range of it. My school has like around 4 clubs and that too barely anyone goes too and in terms of sports they do have them but since i moved from overseas in the middle of the year (term 2) i never got a chance to try out for any of them.
 

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hey lmao i js left a selective school thi year, and am now studiyng at a private school but im moving again next yr to a higher selective school. i honestly feel like at private schools the good thing is that when it ocmes to subjects, u can choose whatver, there's rlly not restrictions here, but also keep in mind that u would have to take studies of relgion. if i had to give u a yes or no answer, i would personally say no, dont move to a privwte school. its got nice pepople but spending money on fees for a private school can be used in high quality tutoring

also important note: keep in mind, that no matter what school ur in, at the end of the day every single yr 12 nsw student sits the same hsc paper.
what selective school are you going too next yr? I mean thats fair too tutoring can aid in a lot when it comes to mark.

Not sure on what to do exactly
 

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what selective school are you going too next yr? I mean thats fair too tutoring can aid in a lot when it comes to mark.

Not sure on what to do exactly
next yr im going syd girls
 

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i see thats one of the main reasons i want to consider going to a private school like i currently go to a top 90 public school and so thinking about going to a top 20 (private) would give me a bit of advantage in terms of ec's nd cocurriculars cause when it comes to grades and ranking i feel like that smth I have to put in the work for regardless of the school but ec's could benefit from going to a school that puts emphasis on it and has a wide range of it. My school has like around 4 clubs and that too barely anyone goes too and in terms of sports they do have them but since i moved from overseas in the middle of the year (term 2) i never got a chance to try out for any of them.
Private schools are amazing. Let me put it into perspective. Lots of people look down upon the co-curriculars that you need to do and the amount of sports and activities that private school kids take on. But in reality as "ceebs" as it seems, these are always fun to do. It's a culture you never knew you could enjoy.

I was similarly accepted into many of the top selective schools (Jr, NSB, Baulko), but their culture around being a well-rounded individual never fascinated me. We are talking about some of the smartest kids in the state but my issue is "that's all". Like legit that's all they have (obviously I think times are changing and we see a lot of all-rounders fostered at selective schools). But these outliers usually have to create their paths -> sport outside of school, rep level sport and it can be hard to push yourself. At my current school, I found I can balance academics and also IMPORTANTLY have other things to "fall back on".

Like I play lots of sports and do many co-curriculars, and if I just brutally mess up a test, I can just go and have a bash on the tennis courts and take my mind off it. The stress relief I've gained is unmatched. You feel in control of life. What happens conversely at a selective school is I would go home and just feel useless and not know what to do. I kinda think of my lifestyle the same way as you think about economics and investing (stick with me here). Many times not everything you partake in will be at its "perfect" level. For instance, I may burnout in academics, or hit a slump in my sport. What you want to do is "diversify" what you do in life. Similar to your investments. And be able to fall back on the things that ARE going well.

And additionally, I find the academic level at these schools is still better than many selective schools. Because you must understand some of the smartest kids at private schools are products of scholarships from these selective schools. I'm talking about international level olympiad students and so forth. And as a result many of these kids go overseas to top Ivy's (stanford, harvard etc) because their applications just look stacked. The reason private schools rank low is because of a tail end. But I never complain about ranking because I know if you stay at the top -> where you will usually stand if you really care about academics at these schools, the level is in my opinion better than most selective schools. But importantly I like the fact that everyone in the school is unique and good at their own aspects. It makes you drive to achieve the best potential in what you want to do.

So where I stand may be biased on private schools. But yeah they are pretty good. It may be daunting to enter one. I know was scared. But once you're there it doesn't seem like there is a better option. I implore anyone who does want to avoid private schools because of these abundance of co-curricular options to rethink their passion. I mean sure its great to get the coveted .95 at a selective school. But you will genuinely regret not trying other things in life. And most of the time, you'll realise with good time management that .95 is attainable at any private school you want. But with that you carry better connections, better people and a better sense of purpose after school.

Please note that I don't think private school kids are elitist. But you will find that many of the kids are genuinely good people to get along with. I find myself being able to hold a conversation with anyone in my school or grade, regardless of our similarities (academics, sports). It's just a better community that these school foster in my opinion. It still fascinates me how some selective school kids are unbeknownst to some of the kids in their grade. You will find inclusion very easy at these school.
 

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