Repeating HSC/Transferring Advice (1 Viewer)

[Four Yrs Wasted]

There is a limited UAI in which you sit <9 units. Mature age entrance is usually for people >21 who don't have a tertiary record. I suggest you take up Bsc (vision science) and work hard to get a decent average in order to transfer to B Optom/bsc. But then you need a UAI of >90 to be competitive.

An innovative feature of this program is its alternate entry mechanism. High school students who do not achieve the cut-off UAI score for direct entry into the Optometry program can apply for one of approximately 25 transfer positions. Students wishing to apply for transfer into the BOptom BSc (3952) program will 1) have completed Stage 1 of the Bachelor of Science (3970) Vision Science study plan, 2) have completed the UMAT exam held in July during Stage 1 of their BSc program and 3) have achieved a minimum performance level of Distinction (75%) in both Stage 1 Vision Science courses (VISN1211 and VISN1231). Students meeting these requirements will be ranked using an algorithm that includes their UAI score, their WAM achieved at the end of Stage 1 of their BSc (3970) Vision Science study plan and their UMAT result. To be competitive for transfer selection students would need an entry UAI of at least 90. A lower entry index may be used for students from rural and regional locations.

Taken from http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/programs/2006/3952.html

You may want to consider other universities such as UQ and UMelb to see if its any easier there.

Good Luck in your endeavours.

Lets assuming I do go down that route:

HD's (GPA 7) in all subjects for Bsc (vision science) in the first year.
Do well in UMAT
UAI: 80+

Doesnt look like ill make the course, simply because of my low UAI.

So the moral of the story? Dont be an ass like me! Study hard, and get a bloody high UAI! There is nothing worse than looking up and down the UAC Book Guide to find you cant apply for anything. And these nothing worse than staring at the same page, hoping that the UAIs for the courses suddenly drop down 20 UAI units.

 

[sikeveo]

Isn't there grad optom anywhere in australia? You could do a bsc and kill that, and then apply for b.optom.


Edit; You could do uni while u do the hsc, as some subjects will be common. You can sit the hsc via self tuition (i.e u just turn up for the exam), or via OTEN. You could easily raise your UAI to 90+ that way, and not waste a year.

 

[freaked]

If you stuck with Engineering when do you perceive that you would graduate?
I don't think the past 4 years have been a waste, you must have learnt something, and its not just academics, it’s about socialisation and 'living'.

I would honestly think long and hard before doing anything. Go and speak to the Uni's counsellors, who should also be able to help you out with your options of getting into your desired course if that is the path you choose to take.

24 is young, you are only a few years older than myself, and you have done amazingly well to have completed your HSC with a UAI in the 80s and attend Uni for 3 years in what is obviously a hard degree.

For these subject/courses you are struggling with, can you be tutored or do night classes?

I know that at Tafe, people who failed a course have special night courses to get them back up to speed. I don't know if Tafe would offer anything that would help you, but it’s worth a try.

Good luck with whatever you decide, and remember the last 4 years have been anything but a waste of time.

 

[lcf]

at Macquarie there is this jubille/jamboree or similar concept thing for 21+ year olds. I think it works not on UAi, but what you have done in your life so far - so instead of marks, you submit a portfolio of work completed etc. Anyway. just my two cents - HSC is not soemthing i would want to do twice...

 

[gman03]

Presume you are a female. Then becoming an engineer, esp a female engineer, will earn you big bucks, whether you enjoy it or not.

Now there are more than just playing with resistors and doing Laplace whatthemotherfucker equations in electrical engineering. There are alternatives such as making biomedical instruments which I believe can be related to optometry.

How bout finishing up your degree (at your best), and maybe get yourself an MBA and do stuff that involves < 5% of resistors like management. After you have a degree, I am sure you can do another degree like Optometry. I am sure they will not just look at your grade.

I agree, Electrical Engineering is ONE of the hardest degree to do. I want to do stuff on electronics which invloves logics and stuff. I dislike resistors and anything related to power. But guess what? I still have to do those damn courses. I am in 2nd year now and you would remember how many subjects a 2nd year EE student at UNSW has to do.

And there is always Arts if all things fail.

Good luck, best wishes for your transfer, see you around.

And I don't encourage you to repeat HSC. Those people are too competitive and you will probably end up where you started.

 

[kami]

Hey Four Years Wasted, firstly there's a thread containing information on this kind of topic here
Secondly as you've probably guessed by now any age can sit the HSC, thirdly I'm not sure the limited UAI would work with you or not, you would have to ask UAC because technically you already have a UAI so working towards a limited UAI maybe regarded as accumulation(*isn't sure*). But anyway, the link that I posted has a heap of information on ways to get into uni including hsc pathways and various others - you imnd find *something* thats useful.

 

[sikeveo]

Kami, but i think 5 years have passed.

 

[kami]

Kami, but i think 5 years have passed.

I was under the impression that it was less because the thread starter has only been in her course for three years and has a UAI rather than a TER. However if the five years have passed you are right, that changes things.

 

[sikeveo]

Good point. I was going by her profile.

 

[Four Yrs Wasted]

Thanks for the link kami

Ive had a very long thought about this for the past few days, with regards to the posts in this thread. While technically I have wasted 4 years, its acutally 2.5 years I've completed the course/degree, and 1.5 years due to my failures, and due to the fact that im only doing 3 subject this semester, to tame that hard subject to pass!

If I fail this subject again, this will push me back further, and ill be wasting too much time on a subject. Not to mention that it goes onto my record, but it also drags my overall marks down.

Based on the above reasoning, I have no choice but to reconsider my position.

I only chose Engineering as it matched by marks. If I *had* obtained a higher mark, I would have definitely picked another course, possibly pharmacy, optometry, or IT.

At this stage, it looks like im going to transfer to B Science (In the hope of doing pharmacy).

Ill ask some questions on this forum before I continue on with the decision.

Thanks for the input so far ladies & gents, its been helpful.

 

[Four Yrs Wasted]

Hmmm...theres not much I can do regarding Optometry, since its only offered at 3 Unis.

B Science @ Melbourne University, then transfer to Optometry. Seems very risky.


Ah, I remember my mathematics teacher saying this back in year 12:

"Dont let your UAI determine your future"

Well, its my very low, dull UAI coming back to haunt me. The Biggest BS ive heard in my life so far.

 

[elfm]

Could you possibly transfer to another stream of engineering? Civil engineering for instance, is a great course, and is infinitely easier than electrical. You'll probably also get credited for a few subjects as well.

 

[neo o]

Thanks for the link kami

Ive had a very long thought about this for the past few days, with regards to the posts in this thread. While technically I have wasted 4 years, its acutally 2.5 years I've completed the course/degree, and 1.5 years due to my failures, and due to the fact that im only doing 3 subject this semester, to tame that hard subject to pass!

If I fail this subject again, this will push me back further, and ill be wasting too much time on a subject. Not to mention that it goes onto my record, but it also drags my overall marks down.

Based on the above reasoning, I have no choice but to reconsider my position.

I only chose Engineering as it matched by marks. If I *had* obtained a higher mark, I would have definitely picked another course, possibly pharmacy, optometry, or IT.

At this stage, it looks like im going to transfer to B Science (In the hope of doing pharmacy).

Ill ask some questions on this forum before I continue on with the decision.

Thanks for the input so far ladies & gents, its been helpful.

If you transfer to B Science, you should check to see whether any of the maths units that you sat would contribute towards that course. You should also check if any other universities would recognise your maths units as contributing towards a B science. If you've sat 8-10 units of maths...

 

[braindrainedAsh]

Yeah you should check all that out. A friend at uni transfered from straight law to journalism and she got credit for some units she had already completed for electives so it didn't take her any longer to finish her degree than if she had been in journalism all along.