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hey everyone, im just doing some last minute notes for the exam tomorrow, and am trying to find common themes within my 3 prescribed texts, seamus heaneys poetry, shipping news and the castle... any themes that appear in two or more of the texts would be much appreciated, also any contradictions concerning how the local and global are perceived in each text...

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I didnt do the poetry but SN and The Castle family, love, materialism of a global culture and hardships linked especially with a blending/clash of golbal and localised cultural paradigms
 

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but quoyles family is so disjointed?? petal tries to sell the kids to a porn director!?! in the castle the family unit is wat hold the kerrigans world together, thinkin of wayne in prison as if it wasnt his fault, the loyalty of dale and steve (think of the scene with the .22 and the warning) to their father.... i think that is a contradiction between the two texts, but also it shows a "local" family in the kerrigans and "global" family in quoyle's disjointed current and past family (think abuse towards her sister and his tormented childhood)... do you agree??
 

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Very muchly. When 'juxtoposed' the contrast in family units is a a very good way to use then relate back to the question concerning RFTG. Saying this i dont think i even finished reading the Shipping News cause reading it could be directly related to beating ur head against a brick wall in terms of enjoyment and frustration. (i would have probably enjoyed it more if i wasnt studying it when i read it)
 
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Heehee I fully didn't finish Shipping News either. Made a pretty big dent in a brick wall though... anyway.

I like to point out the fact that Heaney and MacLeod are very self-reflective and their personal, cultural and historical contexts have a huge impact on their work. But you're not doing LSGOB. Ok. Shipping News!

Proulx, being the delightful Greenpeace activist that she is (at least I think so) is very big on "good" and "bad" characters. Heaney isn't.

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A friend’s essay just got picked by my teacher to be photocopied and handed out to all RFTG Yr 12 students next year. It is a huge honour – in my friend’s words, “Second only to deity!” In HGHS-speak, it means that you join an elite rank of girls whose names with be praised and whose essays will be practically worshipped from now on. In typical green-eyed jealous retaliation, I too shall have my Trial HSC essay (for which I got 100% for) “published”. Perhaps not at HGHS, as I would have liked, but here on BOS.
 

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trickpat23 said:
Very muchly. When 'juxtoposed' the contrast in family units is a a very good way to use then relate back to the question concerning RFTG. Saying this i dont think i even finished reading the Shipping News cause reading it could be directly related to beating ur head against a brick wall in terms of enjoyment and frustration. (i would have probably enjoyed it more if i wasnt studying it when i read it)
has anybody finished this damn book?? i got 70 pages into it lol, then thought screw it, i already know wats going to happen...

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I too shall have my Trial HSC essay (for which I got 100% for) “published”. Perhaps not at HGHS, as I would have liked, but here on BOS
congratulations!! thats great for both you and your friend... im assuming hghs stands for "(something) girls high school"?? i wish i lived in sydney, i probably would have been accepted into a selective school, but alas, my parents had to live in broken hill didnt they?!?
 

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glitterfairy said:
Heehee I fully didn't finish Shipping News either. Made a pretty big dent in a brick wall though... anyway.

I like to point out the fact that Heaney and MacLeod are very self-reflective and their personal, cultural and historical contexts have a huge impact on their work. But you're not doing LSGOB. Ok. Shipping News!

Proulx, being the delightful Greenpeace activist that she is (at least I think so) is very big on "good" and "bad" characters. Heaney isn't.

[sub-text]
A friend’s essay just got picked by my teacher to be photocopied and handed out to all RFTG Yr 12 students next year. It is a huge honour – in my friend’s words, “Second only to deity!” In HGHS-speak, it means that you join an elite rank of girls whose names with be praised and whose essays will be practically worshipped from now on. In typical green-eyed jealous retaliation, I too shall have my Trial HSC essay (for which I got 100% for) “published”. Perhaps not at HGHS, as I would have liked, but here on BOS.

so what are you worrying about glitterfairy? you are the English Extension Queen, and thou shall reign....
 
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Don't know about that.

There are a lot of people in my grade better than me. Heck, I don't even think I made the top 20 for EE1 at my school. It meant sooo much to do so well in Trials. I cried when I got the essay back, I really did.

I'm incredibly torn. Let's be honest: The reason some schools do better is because they have an edge that they hide from other schools. If I reveal my "star" essay, then you'll see some interesting things I was given. But then again, after this year, everyone will know about it, because the markers will see what we do, pass it onto other teachers, and etc etc.

I'm pissed off because I'm not a "special perfect person". If I was, I'd be in the hghs "hall of fame". I'm also pissed off because I thought I got over the whole "who cares about being one of the special perfect people" thing years ago. Obviously I didn't. I'm also jealous that my friend got in and not me (human nature) but at the same time I'm so incredibly proud for her and to know her. She has worked her butt off this year, and through all the sweat and tears and grown into an amazing person who knows so much more than she thinks she can, writes so much better than she believes, is more talented than she could ever imagine, and truly deserves to have her name and work immortalised for all time.

I on the other hand am just a stupid, immature, over-competitive, over-emotional, silly twit who relies too much on cheap thrills and who is not standing in good stead for tommorrow.
 

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ok look. All the way through primary school it meant a lot to me to be one of the popular girls too. then i went away for a bit and i came back thinking i was more mature than them.

But somehow I still wanted to be like them, even though i knew they were far far far more stupid.

It is human nature to want to be known and to be one of the perfect people glitterfairy. That is one of lifes annoying niggling feelings.

I'm sure that while you may not do as well as the perfect people tommorow you will go in tommorow and do bloody awesome. and so you deserve to, cos you know your stuff. :) serious.

This is your quarter to 10 pep talk signing offf....
 

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Aww, you'll be fine glitterfairy *hotcocoa passes around the kleenex*

I think, once the pressure of the actualy exams hits us tomoro, we'll go mighty fine!

That is... as long as the essay question has nothing to do with ideas and legs..... :(

Anyway, by this time tomoro we'll all be in the "What did you think about the extension one english exam?" forum, laughing about how stupidly simple it was... and most people will be bragging about the DOZENS and DOZENS of pages they wrote (yea right guys, it's easy to claim that considering no body will ever prove otherwise, hmm?) and we can all sit around and be stupid, carefree, non-english people :D

we'll be fine, thats my personal guarantee :p
 

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everyone always writes heaps
i doubt ill have enough to fill up one book per question!
 

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