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[hipsta_jess]

i just found this on my unis site

Academic Salary Rates - Effective 1 February 2003

Important Notes:
A successful candidate for a Level A position who possesses a PhD must be appointed to the 6th year salary at least.

Clinical Loadings are listed after Level E Salary rates.

Applicable on-costs are listed on the Financial Services home page.

Casual Rate: irregular hours, ie days and hours vary.


Enterprise Agreement Rate
$ Per Annum
LEVEL A (ASSOCIATE LECTURER)
1st step $37,823
2nd step $39,983
3rd step $42,144
4th step $44,306
5th step $46,062
6th step $47,818
7th step $49,574
8th step $51,329

LEVEL B (LECTURER)
1st step $54,031
2nd step $56,059
3rd step $58,083
4th step $60,112
5th step $62,136
6th step $64,164

LEVEL C (SENIOR LECTURER)
1st step $66,188
2nd step $68,216
3rd step $70,240
4th step $72,268
5th step $74,292
6th step $76,321

LEVEL D (ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR)
1st step $79,697
2nd step $82,397
3rd step $85,099
4th step $87,800

LEVEL E (PROFESSOR)
$102,661

Full Clinical Loading $17,771

Para Clinical Loading $11,862

Pre Clinical Loading $ 8,898

so what are the 'steps'?

 

[jm1234567890]

Step are determined byt alot of ways, kind on mini promotions. You get stepped up depending on performance and how long you have been at the uni.

However, to jump levels you need to apply for promotion.


These are the bonuses on the salary

ALLOWANCES
Dean 23179
Head of School 10584
Head 5291
Associate Dean 5291
Sub-Dean 5291

 

[Collin]

Originally posted by :: ryan.cck ::
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i dont like ppl who want to do certain jobs for money only ... =.="

And please explain how you came to the conclusion that I wouldn't enjoy being a lecturer.

Originally posted by neo_o
Assuming if that 3 lecture thing is right, lecturers with a workload so small might even be able to hold down a second job else they have an easy $100,000

Exactly. The workload is so small that essentially for brevity, we can say relative to the length of an entire week, we're getting paid 3 X $600 for spending nearly no time. Find another job(s), and you'll be financially set.

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How much do you guys reckon a mathematics lecturer would get paid? That would be a beaut job, in my opinion.

 

[jm1234567890]

lol, lecturers don't just teach. You gotta research or you will never be promoted.

 

[Giant Lobster]

math lecturer = good job?
man... doesnt math actually get hard in uni while other stuff (say arts) gets more common sense? thats the vibe i get at least...

so to be a math lecturer wouldnt be easy at all

LEVEL A (ASSOCIATE LECTURER)
1st step $37,823

i resent that.

i mean, how can a guy with a phd, no matter how new he is to the field, be worth under 38k / year

 

[Collin]

Originally posted by Giant Lobster
math lecturer = good job?
man... doesnt math actually get hard in uni while other stuff (say arts) gets more common sense? thats the vibe i get at least...

so to be a math lecturer wouldnt be easy at all

i resent that.

i mean, how can a guy with a phd, no matter how new he is to the field, be worth under 38k / year

Maths is only hard to people who are not good at maths. I love maths, so I would love to teach it. Coincidentally maths lecturers probably would be higher paid than something like say, Arts, so that works well for me too.

 

[Orange Juice]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
And please explain how you came to the conclusion that I wouldn't enjoy being a lecturer.

well im not sure if you told everyone or just me... but you said and i QUOTE this ... "i would hate to be a lecturer"

 

[Collin]

Man, would I have loved to pull the power plug to your computer before you posted that Orange Juice.

 

[Orange Juice]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
Man, would I have loved to pull the power plug to your computer before you posted that Orange Juice.

you had your chance... with your monster truck (or was that with someone else?)

as for this thread... i heard lecturers as get money for prep time... so it sounds alright but you gotta get like 5 degrees just to teach

 

[Collin]

Yeah, I'm the guy with the monster truck.

So conclusively we're saying that the main drawbacks to making lecturing a profession are the amount of time and effort used for obtaining all the relevant degrees, and the general low hours you get?

I mean, say I got a 9-5 Mon to Fri job lecturing instead of doing a few measley hours each week, at $100-$600 hour, I'd be sure to owning another set of megawheels in no time eh?

 

[jase_]

Most lecturers at uni usually teach the same subject each semester (usually 2 lectures a semester as well), so after a few years u'd be quite good at teaching that subject I'd imagine

 

[Collin]

2 lectures per semester? Shit, that would mean around 6 lectures per week for a subject of 6cp. Not bad actually, especially if I was rated at $600 or something.

 

[hipsta_jess]

Originally posted by Giant Lobster
i mean, how can a guy with a phd, no matter how new he is to the field, be worth under 38k / year

no, read it again, if you have a phd, you start off at at least step 6.
"6th step $47,818"
which is still pretty pov.

 

[Generator]

Originally posted by Giant Lobster
man... doesnt math actually get hard in uni while other stuff (say arts) gets more common sense? thats the vibe i get at least...

Grow up. There is no such thing as an easy or common sense subject.

 

[jm1234567890]

Originally posted by Giant Lobster
math lecturer = good job?
man... doesnt math actually get hard in uni while other stuff (say arts) gets more common sense? thats the vibe i get at least...

so to be a math lecturer wouldnt be easy at all

i resent that.

i mean, how can a guy with a phd, no matter how new he is to the field, be worth under 38k / year

Originally posted by hipsta_jess
no, read it again, if you have a phd, you start off at at least step 6.
"6th step $47,818"
which is still pretty pov.

If you had a decent PhD thesis you would start higher than that....

Cause you can be an academic without a PhD thesis, just a crap one.

 

[hipsta_jess]

Originally posted by jm1234567890
you can be an academic without a PhD thesis, just a crap one.

omg, sooooo true, one of our bio lecturers didnt have a phd, and he was totally crap...im not saying it was coz he didnt have a phd, but he was just crap and knew virtually nothing.

 

[Wohzazz]

Originally posted by tactic
i am pretty sure a 'casual' lecturer gets about 200$/hr

as for others i wouldnt know

Geez you guys serious? That is amazing what other job gets you that much hourly pay?

But i guess this rate is only for those top lecturers. I checked out some job income sites and the average income for lecturer is about $1350/ week. Not sure about the hours but should be pretty low (like under 20?).

And do universities like restrict the amount of hours you teach? What stops a professor from doing 30 hours at $200/hr to earn $6000 a week???

 

[Minai]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
What stops a professor from doing 30 hours at $200/hr to earn $6000 a week???

Research commitments

 

[Collin]

Originally posted by Wohzazz
Geez you guys serious? That is amazing what other job gets you that much hourly pay?

If you're the CEO of a large transnational software company who also has the coincidental name of 'Bill Gates', you may be topping the $1M per hour rate.

 

[jm1234567890]

Originally posted by Wohzazz

And do universities like restrict the amount of hours you teach? What stops a professor from doing 30 hours at $200/hr to earn $6000 a week???

your not really paid by the hour.... the hour value is just a guide, most ppl work more hours to finish research.