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Does anyone know how software eng scales? oh also how will my scaling be in general with these subjects
1. eng adv
2. math adv + ext 1
3. physics
4. multimedia - industrial tech
5. ancient history
6. software eng

oh and is it a smart idea to do the same game for both my major projects and just different documentations?
 

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Does anyone know how software eng scales? oh also how will my scaling be in general with these subjects
1. eng adv
2. math adv + ext 1
3. physics
4. multimedia - industrial tech
5. ancient history
6. software eng

oh and is it a smart idea to do the same game for both my major projects and just different documentations?
"both" major projects is kinda confusing me 😭,
but one of them definitely has to be a PWA that solves a client's issue? i guess that wouldn't stop you from doing a game, it just might not be the best answer.
 

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"both" major projects is kinda confusing me 😭,
but one of them definitely has to be a PWA that solves a client's issue? i guess that wouldn't stop you from doing a game, it just might not be the best answer.
uhh yeah i worded that poorly, what i mean is like the same backend programming but like changed enough so nesa doesnt get iffy
 

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"both" major projects is kinda confusing me 😭,
but one of them definitely has to be a PWA that solves a client's issue? i guess that wouldn't stop you from doing a game, it just might not be the best answer.
oh and what i did not know the software eng major project had to be that, i thought it could be a game idk
 

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hi guys i just i finished my hsc for software eng last year and the scaling was pretty decent because it was a new subject with no previous past papers. It was a lot better than the old course but it is a technical subject.

my major project was to take the schools sport data and put it onto a website which provides useful data insights such as which days had most abscences or which coaches had the most hours spent etc. The major project itself is decided by the schools and varys. One of my friends had to build a canteen ordering service at another school. Also it isnt exactly a 'major project' as it is not marked by NESA, rather it is marked by your teachers which is used for your internal ranking.

I had to also complete some documentation based on the syllabus which ended up being around 100 pages but that was mainly because i was in a really strong class with more than 90% b6 rate.

Just letting you guys know i do tutor the subject so if you feel like you need extra help feel free to msg me but if you have any other questions feel free to ask. I got a b6 with a 94 and came second at sydney boys and im currently studying comp sci at unsw.
 

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The major project itself is decided by the schools and varys
not necessarily true
i'm sure at private/selective schools this might be the case but at my public school we could choose 👍

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but that was mainly because i was in a really strong class with more than 90% b6 rate.
there's the difference xD
my class had two or three band 5s (the two accel kids + 1 other) and the rest were absolute idiots who never did any work and should not have been at school
i think we might have had a band 2 in the class? but i'm not 100%
anyway that class sucked lol
 

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wait so how exactly does scaling work there then? say i got a raw mark of like 92 and the rest or my class got like band 3's i would go down with them whaaatt
 

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@anon111 Short answer:
It does help when your cohort does well too, but you aren't necessarily dragged down with them if they don't do well.

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Long answer... two reasons why they might not drag you down so far. (All this assumes you are doing well, raw mark 92 suggests that)
1. Your External mark (ie HSC exam itself) counts to 50% of your HSC mark, that's it, you get what you get and you don't get upset.
2. Your Internal mark counts for the other 50%. This part is where your ranking at the end of the internal assessments determines how much you need your cohort to do well. NESA take the highest External mark of the cohort and gives it to the 1st ranked internal and the lowest External mark to the lowest ranked internal, simple if you are one of these two.
They fit everyone else in using an algorithm that matches how everyone went internally compared to one another. The theory is, if you are near the top internally, you will receive an internal mark near the top External mark. If you are near the lower end, you are closer to the lower mark. Very simplified, but that might make you feel better if you are working well and the others aren't trying at all.

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Here are a couple of examples from my child who did some subjects last year (I'm a helicopter dad, so apart from looking at what others are doing on BOS, I'm really into scaling)
Example 1 - Maths (Students pretty close to each other):
My child was equal 5th in their cohort of 14 or so
Rough assessment marks of cohort (note, these marks are only to determine rank and nothing to do with your final HSC mark, apart from the algorithm I mention above):
1st: 100, 2nd: 95, 3rd: 92, 4th: 91, Eq 5th:90 7: 88 -> Really dropped off from there for the rest.
The top 7 students were all pretty good, the rest not so good, real bad.

My child ended up getting highest External mark. In fact, the top 7 got External marks within one or two marks of each other, so their internal marks also reflected that before dropping off for the others.
The top internal deservedly got the highest Internal mark all alone while the rest got one mark lower, including my child. (In reality my child still got the 5th highest mark, but hidden in decimal places).
My child was unhappy their exam mark "went" to the top student, but the 1st had earned their spot during all the internal assessments.
The thing is, my child still got half their HSC mark from the External exam, so when that was taken into account they had equal highest HSC mark in the cohort.

Example 2 - Language (Massive gaps between all students)
My child was first in assessments - 1st - 97 2nd - 88 3rd - 82 , the rest dropped off considerably.
Exam, my child came first, got the same mark internally as externally. No effect from everyone else.

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Just a note:
Scaling only affects the final result after you have your HSC mark (which is affected by your cohort).
ie > Your raw mark is what you get in exam - 92 in your example (you don't see this unless you pay NESA to release it)
> Your aligned "HSC" mark is what you get on the results day, 50% internal + 50% external, generally this is higher- say 94 for you.
This is a complete random guess, as we only had one year of S.E and there is only one result on the Raw Marks Database. It is 96.25 raw 97 aligned State Rank - 6th, the increase gets smaller as you get near the top.
> Your scaled mark, which you never see, relates to the raw marks. NESA produces a report on the scaling of the HSC, which relates to the aligned "HSC" mark, which also adds to the confusion.
Last Year in S.E. a 98 HSC Mark got 100 when scaled, 96 HSC Mark got 94.6 scaled, 89 HSC mark got 81 scaled.
So, for you potentially 90 +/- 2 marks scaled, which in my book, pretty good. Score that (scaled) in all your subjects, that's 97+ ATAR. (Disclaimer: Each subject has its own scaling, ie 91 "HSC mark" in Korean Continuers scales to 56, so not as good as S.E.)

Apologies, went a bit longer than planned, but I'm really into it. Once you get your head around it, it is cool. Though don't go wasting your time trying to work it out, focus on your studies, be consistent and aim high.
 
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