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Originally posted by Jacks
Credo che sia la cosa piu importante dovrebbe essere l'amicizia ( e la famiglia, ovviamente) Sei d'accordo o no???

[Please tell me that makes sense hehe]
it doesnt make sense because u use sia and then dovrebb'essere, two verbs in the same clause.

it should be

credo che la cosa piu importante dovrebb'essere l'amicizia
 

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Originally posted by s2ophie
Secondo me, la famiglia e' il piu' importante ma l'amicizia sone ugualmente importante.

(Jacks you need a sunjunctive in their because you said credo che)
it's not sono, amicizia takes the singular

i.e --> secondo me, la famiglia il piu importante ma l'amicizia ugualmente importante.
 

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yes well someone knows their stuff!
 

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yeah, thanks soma, that's good actually, if you see any of my posts are wrong please correct them!
 

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Oh actually i have an idea,

Soma,

explain the verb piacere to us all!
 

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Originally posted by s2ophie
explain the verb piacere to us all!
yeah that's a crap verb

btw, are you italian? if yes, where are you from? if no, how are you so good?!?
 

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Originally posted by Soma
it doesnt make sense because u use sia and then dovrebb'essere, two verbs in the same clause.

it should be

credo che la cosa piu importante dovrebb'essere l'amicizia
I had that to begin with...then I changed it...ah meh...thanks though...
 

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i'm not italian and im not that good, except maybe i used to do latin so my grammar was helped by that.

sophie what do u want to know about piacere?

basically it means to please, so when u meet someone or something italians often say piacere, meaning something like "it's a pleasure" in english

when u want to use it to express the liking of something however it becomes more complicated.

usually u will just leave it in the 3rd person form and what u r really saying is this thing is pleasing to me.

i.e Mi piace questa macchina
or maybe it's easier to understand when it's
a me piace questa macchina

u r just saying that "this car is pleasing to me" which is the closest thing italian has to the english "i like this car"

however if there are two cars it would be,
"i like these cars" or "these cars are pleasing to me",
so u have to say Mi piaccono queste macchine

when u change to other tenses u basically leave it in the 3rd person to express like

i.e

mi e' piaciuto il viaggio

gli piacerebbe andare in discoteca con me

etc.

maybe that doesnt clear things up, but i tried :)
if there's anything more specific u want to know about the verb i can try and answer it/
 

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so how do you know whether to use mi piace, or a me piace?
 

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grazie mille soma!

yes i was talking about the piacere in the like sense

but i think however many times it is explained to be i will never really get it!
 

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I get it...thanks Soma...luckily it hasn't really worried me a lot...when you look at it in the way Soma was describing "It is pleasing to me" etc it's not that hard to understand...after a million times of thinking about it over the years though maybe
 

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Originally posted by iambored
so how do you know whether to use mi piace, or a me piace?
it is the same thing in this case, mi is a direct object but it is really just a contracted form of "a me"

when ppl say "a me" it's usually just for emphasis

i.e a me piacciono tantissimo questi attori!!!
 

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oh ok! that's what i have never understood! well thanks for that!
 

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it's a fairly subtle difference so i'm not sure of the exact usage but like i said i usually just use "a me" for emphasis
 

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whereas i find it easier to use mi...but yeh i love the emphasis thing!! IO non vado anche...so u dont have to say IO but it puts emphasis
 

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i love saying TU sei _______(insert nasty word here)_____
 

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