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walrusbear said:
not for a second
a lot of wafs ramblings are the flipside of the SA
they're just as extreme
Fallacy. You're implying that, just because my rantings are consistent with a certain ideal (in this case freedom) a larger percentage of the time than yours or others, my ideology is necessarily crazy and wrong. Also if you're taking everything seriously you should be pointing out that monorails and tunnels are unworkable, and that my irrational hatred of Stan has nothing to do with src elections.
 

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i know your earlier post had jokes in it, i'm referring more to general political attitudes

and yes, the term 'crazy' was subjective, how insightful

your rantings are generally inflexibly aligned with an absolute adherence to economic rationalism and free markets and whatnot. which is fair enough i suppose, but makes political discussion pointless, because you can't see any value in other perspectives at all.
you can believe it all you want, but thus why it is extreme and 'crazy'
 

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walrusbear said:
i know your earlier post had jokes in it, i'm referring more to general political attitudes

and yes, the term 'crazy' was subjective, how insightful

your rantings are generally inflexibly aligned with an absolute adherence to economic rationalism and free markets and whatnot. which is fair enough i suppose, but makes political discussion pointless, because you can't see any value in other perspectives at all.
you can believe it all you want, but thus why it is extreme and 'crazy'
I wouldn't say that political discourse is pointless, as there are areas where I realise that complete free markets are not applicable, such as pollution taxes, providing a certain level of public education, police, courts, prisons, etc. While I'll generally have a strong tendency towards the right, it's because I think it provides the best outcome as in general individuals know what's best for them, but wouldn't rule out restricting freedom in some areas to get the best outcome.
 

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Phanatical said:
Does anybody remember the candidate Doug for Union from a few years ago? Apparently he and Angus are romantically linked. Just a bit of goss...
That's old news. In fact, Honi Soit published that same rumour when Doug and Angus ran for Union Board last year. More to the point, it's completely irrelevant to the actual election...
 

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the problem with that coin thing is that it looks like alot less coins than it actually is
 

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withoutaface said:
Fallacy. You're implying that, just because my rantings are consistent with a certain ideal (in this case freedom) a larger percentage of the time than yours or others, my ideology is necessarily crazy and wrong. Also if you're taking everything seriously you should be pointing out that monorails and tunnels are unworkable, and that my irrational hatred of Stan has nothing to do with src elections.
Ah Justin, you would have loved the lecture we had today on Libertarianism in Contemporary Political Philosophy.

More so you would have loved arguing with token dreadlock guy & other assorted hippies....
 

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It was my intention to create a campaign video to play during lectures, with somebody counting 600 dollar coins over a half hour. While that's obviously not practical, I believe the message is still important, as I do not believe it is fair for our SRC to spend money protesting in favour of reintroducing the mandatory fees students like myself worked bloody hard to get rid of.

I don't think that many of our representatives on the SRC actually understand how difficult it is to raise those kinds of funds. One prominent former SRC president, for example, lives in a house in Newtown that her ABC presenter mother BOUGHT her. It's all well and good for somebody like her to demand the payment of $600 from every student, because she probably uses hundred dollar notes to wipe her arse. I, on the other hand, work mine off to earn $500. That's two and a half week's earnings for me, or sixty $20 bonsai (including the cost of materials, transport etc.). I'm incredibly pissed off that instead of using it to pay for my $24 weekly train & bus tickets, my $75-a-tank petrol bills, my $200-a-semester textbook bills or even maybe the occasional night out with my best friend, I'm forced to pay $490 towards sports teams I don't support, a few cents off a putrid union coffee or the legal fees for yet another violent protester who chose to beat up a cop or a VSU-supporting student.

If Action (Labor) take power on SRC this year, they will use the $1.1 million Senate grant that should have been spent on smaller class sizes, increased accessibility for disabled students and staff, subsidised parking for students who Need to drive etc., to fund endless protests in 2007 fighting to reintroduce that $490/$600 fee that students like withoutaface, Malfoy and many others have campaigned hard to be rid of. At the same time, the SRC and Union are purposely limiting or removing completely certain services designed to convey the impression that VSU is destroying these organisations. To call it "unfair" and "dishonest" would be polite.

That's the message waf and I are working to convey on the behalf of the Voice tickets. It's essential, now more than ever, to actually vote this year. Every student has a voice, and if we don't exercise it, the corrupt politician-wannabes will exploit the shit out of us.
 
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We should make full fee paying students play exorbitantly high union fees so the rest of us poor schlubs don't have to.
 

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Phanatical said:
It was my intention to create a campaign video to play during lectures, with somebody counting 600 dollar coins over a half hour. While that's obviously not practical, I believe the message is still important, as I do not believe it is fair for our SRC to spend money protesting in favour of reintroducing the mandatory fees students like myself worked bloody hard to get rid of.

I don't think that many of our representatives on the SRC actually understand how difficult it is to raise those kinds of funds. One prominent former SRC president, for example, lives in a house in Newtown that her ABC presenter mother BOUGHT her. It's all well and good for somebody like her to demand the payment of $600 from every student, because she probably uses hundred dollar notes to wipe her arse. I, on the other hand, work mine off to earn $500. That's two and a half week's earnings for me, or sixty $20 bonsai (including the cost of materials, transport etc.). I'm incredibly pissed off that instead of using it to pay for my $24 weekly train & bus tickets, my $75-a-tank petrol bills, my $200-a-semester textbook bills or even maybe the occasional night out with my best friend, I'm forced to pay $490 towards sports teams I don't support, a few cents off a putrid union coffee or the legal fees for yet another violent protester who chose to beat up a cop or a VSU-supporting student.
lol

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If Action (Labor) take power on SRC this year, they will use the $1.1 million Senate grant that should have been spent on smaller class sizes, increased accessibility for disabled students and staff, subsidised parking for students who Need to drive etc., to fund endless protests in 2007 fighting to reintroduce that $490/$600 fee that students like withoutaface, Malfoy and many others have campaigned hard to be rid of. At the same time, the SRC and Union are purposely limiting or removing completely certain services designed to convey the impression that VSU is destroying these organisations. To call it "unfair" and "dishonest" would be polite.

That's the message waf and I are working to convey on the behalf of the Voice tickets. It's essential, now more than ever, to actually vote this year. Every student has a voice, and if we don't exercise it, the corrupt politician-wannabes will exploit the shit out of us.
yep
VSU certainly wouldn't have happened without your hard work :rolleyes:
 

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why would you sell bonsai
youd make more cash just working at coles
 

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It's not just a business, but also an academic interest. I'm performing research in a number of areas including methods of cultivating and maintaining trees using less water and space, and working on a book to be released in 2007 or 2008.
 

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Phanatical said:
One prominent former SRC president, for example, lives in a house in Newtown that her ABC presenter mother BOUGHT her.
Rose lives in Melbourne this year, but when she was living in Newtown she was renting with two other students.
 

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I'm sure with her $30 000 salary she was hard pressed to pay the rent.
 

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I'm sorry, but I just HAVE to post this.

Your new SRC President, ladies and gentlemen:

 

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Phanatical said:
Your new SRC President, ladies and gentlemen:
You're just as bad as Fox News. The Bull put it most aptly - she has Snowballs chance in Hell of becoming President.
 

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I haven't seen this week's bull, but apparently they took so much out of context it wasn't funny.
 
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