Student Politics (1 Viewer)

[banco55]

Henry Kissinger once said that student politics is vicious, precisely because the stakes are so small. But for those involved, there ARE no higher stakes. because while the stakes may Seem small, for students it very well could be the key to an entire career. Success at SRC can often mean a career in politics - perhaps even becoming Prime Minister one day. So when people don't vote for us (or even worse, abuse us or berate us), it may not seem like a big deal to most people, but it really feels like a personal attack. And in an emotionally charged situation like that, people can be pushed to say or even do inappropriate things.

True. 95% of student politics is BS. That's one good reason to get rid of the VSU. We won't be funding these idiots CV padding activities anymore.

 

[Generator]

True. 95% of student politics is BS. That's one good reason to get rid of the VSU. We won't be funding these idiots CV padding activities anymore.

You mean USU, and the introduction of VSU doesn't necessarily mean that the student bodies will cease to exist - I am sure that such people will continue to be politically active on campus with or without the financial support of an SRC or guild.

 

[Phanatical]

But at least we won't be accessories to the fact. That alone will make me feel much Much better about it.

 

[banco55]

You mean USU, and the introduction of VSU doesn't necessarily mean that the student bodies will cease to exist - I am sure that such people will continue to be politically active on campus with or without the financial support of an SRC or guild.

Yeah but there private political crusades won't be subsidized to the same extent by their fellow students.

 

[Generator]

Yeah but there private political crusades won't be subsidized to the same extent by their fellow students.

'Private' political crusades that are just a minor (if overly public) part of the SRC as a whole.

 

[banco55]

You know the saying: "if they all fell off the edge of the earth....". I don't think 95% of students would notice any adverse effects if we got rid of student councils entirely.

 

[Generator]

Well, I'm sure that they will come to rue the loss of a functional SRC when they come to realise just how important it truly was.

 

[loquasagacious]

Well interestingly enough a handful of our very own BoSers were at the 'Politics in the Pub' event where Abbot spoke - almost enough to outnumber the socialists lol.

Here's some grabs from our immediate responses:

I think that something needs to be said about the Socialists and Tony Abbot at politics in the pub. When someone has to be cordoned off from 10 frothing socialists by both Laborites and Liberals, you know that something is completely wrong. They didn't want to speak or debate, they just came to disrupt the event for everyone else.

It was quite amazing how he held his cool despite all the yelling and lack of air.

Fuc*ing faux-socialists are c*nts. Ten loud smelly unbathed and unshaven socialists completely ruined what would have been an intellectually stimulating and enjoyable event. You know what's worse? Three of them were academics including Rick Kuhn. Those academics ought to be fired for being such immature idiots.

The other thing is that there were maybe 150-200 people there. The media will report only the bad side and not the aspect where the civil and rational students were vehemently against the dirty comrades.

There's gotta be something the Uni can do against at least the immature faux-socialist academics if not the douchebag students...

Are you loud? Immature? Unwilling to listen to reason? Willing to destroy your reputation? Does Daddy pay? Become a socialist today!

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Abbott really needs to be congratulated on keeping his cool though. But I guess he didn't really have any other option.

Those socialists alone should have been enough reason for Tony to vote for the RU486 bill. There's a chance some of them would have been aborted out of existance by their hippy parents.

It boiled down to a basic principles argument and the Socialist Alternative (SA) declared that Abbot did NOT have a right to freedom of speech.

The Labor club (labor right) are intending on using their new found clout in the student association (ANUSA) with this as a pretext to preventing the SA from affiliating with ANUSA next year.

 

[Phanatical]

I remember when the Socialist Alternative were up in arms about one of their members being brought before court to face charges of violence against students and violence against police officers. I asked them what made their violence any different to the violence they say is used against them - and their answer is that any violence they use is "justified" because they are "fighting against the oppressors". Hypocritical? Of course it is, but not to them.

 

[katie_tully]

I've been stalking the CSU forums as of late, just to see where fellow students swing in the political arena. I have gathered that the majority of posters are mature aged students, and then there are a few my age. Anyway, it's mainly left and there are about 6 different Howard bashing threads. All of which end up as lefties calling righties bad names. Anywho, if you say Muslim and violence in the same sentence AND you're liberal, it means you're a racist.
I'm gathering that some of them have toom much time on their hands, and not enough brain cells to fill them with.

 

[katie_tully]

Yep. I've been called racist 3 times already. I'm loving it.

 

[withoutaface]

Sydney Uni Liberal Club's Official Publication: Libertas!

You can find it here. Right click, then "Save link/target as...".

Enjoy!

 

[sikeveo]

Re: Sydney Uni Liberal Club's Official Publication: Libertas!

waf, are you in the liberal society?

 

[withoutaface]

Re: Sydney Uni Liberal Club's Official Publication: Libertas!

Yeah I'm comms director.

 

[Phanatical]

Re: Sydney Uni Liberal Club's Official Publication: Libertas!

The ISA Update is much nicer.

Lara Andrews is so hawt.

 

[withoutaface]

Yep. I've been called racist 3 times already. I'm loving it.

Dear GLW,
I was wondering if you could justify to me your rationale behind labelling the Jyllands Posten cartoons as racist, because as it stands it would seem that you're just throwing the term about without having any knowledge of its meaning, so let's take a look at the dictionary, shall we?

rac·ism ( rā's*z'əm) pronunciation
n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Ok, so perhaps these catoons could have been prejudiced against Muslims, but let's look deeper, and find the definition of the word "race".
race1 ( rās) pronunciation
n.

1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.

1 is easily refuted, because the belief in Allah is not inherited.
2 doesn't apply to Muslims either, since there are many different areas where they can be found (the Middle East and South East Asia, for example), and each group of Muslims in the different areas have a different nationality and history.
3, much like 1, does not apply to Muslims.

But what does this all mean?

To spell it out for you simpler socialist types, it essentially means that if I attack Islam, I'm not being racist, much the same as when every issue you attack capitalism, you're not being racist either, because you, like me, are attacking a belief. What is racist, however, is the constant stream of anti-Semitic cartoons (just in case you get confused, I'm referring to the Jews as a race, rather than those who practice Judaism, who may or may not be Jewish) coming out of the Middle East, which you so kindly overlook because noone's burning down embassies over them. I'd suggest that next time you accuse someone of being racist you make sure that it's actually a race they're attacking.

Best Regards,
Justin Simon
Communications Director, Sydney University Liberal Club

Post something similar to that.

 

[Generator]

So many conservatives...

*shakes head*

So much for the liberal Liberal.

 

[HotShot]

Post something similar to that.

its called disrcrimination:

being rascist is being discriminatory, so ppl who used the word rascist really mean ur discriminating between two or more things.

 

[withoutaface]

So they're allowed to wear shirts telling me to "fuck off" because I'm "scum" for holding one set of beliefs, but I'm not allowed to make a similar comment to a Muslim for holding another set of beliefs? This just reeks of double standards.

 

[what971]

Give Me My $302 Back You Union Motherf**kers!